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hoppdoc
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Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt
#76259 - 12/04/07 10:05 AM

I am considering whether to mount a Aimpoint red dot 2x scope with unlimited eye relief on my Win 70 458 WM.This may have been discussed previously but I don't recall anyone who actually had such a set up. I presently shoot peep sights ok but my eyes aren't getting any younger--

The minimal magnification appeals to me-
Wonder if the scope can take the punishment of a big bore.It weighs 10.6 oz.I would like to put such a set up on a 500 A Square bolt in the future if I could ever get round to getting one built.

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/11420/aimpoint_2x_9000l_30mm_red_dot_sight.htm

Maybe this set up would change my luck on trusting no scopes on
rifles bigger than a 416 Rigby.

Any opinions pro or con??

Thanks for any/all responses--

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Edited by hoppdoc (12/04/07 10:09 AM)

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hoppdoc
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: hoppdoc]
#76264 - 12/04/07 11:15 AM

Who knows?

If the Red dot does ok on the 458 WM Big Bolt then my 500 NE has claw mounts--Bonanza had suggested a lighter load for a scoped Double previously but if I could shoot the regulated load scoped--More/Better!

Irregardless,all this is pie in the sky stuff, but if purchased, the scope will be checked on a Big Bore before playing with a Double.

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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: hoppdoc]
#76271 - 12/04/07 02:07 PM

I have an Aimpoint red dot on a Kreighoff double in 9.3X74, no trouble so far and everyone that's tried it loves it!

~Arctic~

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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: Arctic]
#76298 - 13/04/07 02:04 AM

I like the 2X Leuy Duplex hair on my .458.
: The 2X red dot might be a fun alternative, if the scope can take the jolt.
: What is the MOA designation of the dot? The red dot scope I have is 6 moa but only 1X - the dot is too big for anything but big animals at close range. I tested it on a .22 and groups were poor compared to even open irons, so it sits in a drawer.

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Scott
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: hoppdoc]
#76488 - 14/04/07 12:57 PM

I have an Aimpoint 2X on my 458 Lott which I used in Tanzania in 2005. I have it mounted on Leupold quick release rings and bases. No problems.

I liked the scope so much, just purchased another one for my Ruger M77 in 458 Win Mag.

The Aimpoint is waterproof and dustproof.

I talked to the factory about the rifle I was going to put it on, and they said no problem because they have used the scopes on large handguns with worse recoil.

scott

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hoppdoc
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: Scott]
#76510 - 14/04/07 09:43 PM

That's what I wanted to hear!!

Hopefully it would hang together on the 458 WM and survive a 500 A Square loading(when I could have such a gun built).With my old eyes I use open sights but prefer a scope if possible.At 2x it sounds like fun on a heavy recoiling rifle with the possibility of at least 5" of eye relief.

Maybe it would even work with claw mounts on a Double!!

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Edited by hoppdoc (14/04/07 09:44 PM)

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Scott
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: hoppdoc]
#76767 - 17/04/07 02:10 PM

The eye relief is unlimited. You can put your head anywhere and shoot it. I take too long with my eyesight to use iron sights effectively. That is why I put the Aimpoint on. Put the dot on the target and squeeze the trigger. The dot does not even need to be centered in the scope to hit deadon.

scott

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Bigfive
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: Scott]
#76775 - 17/04/07 04:43 PM

Hi Hoppdoc,

If this is of any interest, I have a Lynx RDC Red Dot on my Brno 460WBY MAg( it used to be 458)
I shoot a lot with it and it works perfectly. I am satisfied with my groupings on 100m and that is more than enough distance for me.
The Brno is a very light rifle so it kicks like a giraffe and still the RDC holds.

Hope it can give you some guidance!!

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DarylS
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: Bigfive]
#76796 - 18/04/07 12:37 AM

Unlimited eye relief and 2X might just be the 'ticket' for my 6.5x55 'scout' rifle.

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oregon45
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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: DarylS]
#79177 - 22/05/07 04:39 PM

Here's my Aimpoint Comp 7000L on my CZ 9.3x62

Great sight, on sale at Midwayusa for 199.99; I'm buying another one tomorrow.

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Re: Red Dot Scope on Big Bolt [Re: oregon45]
#79180 - 22/05/07 04:52 PM

I think a red dot sight on a hard kicker is a good idea. I have spoken with the Zeiss people, and they say their Z Point would take the recoil of a 500 double and up.

I have one on a 308 I am testing. I have used Aim Points and EO-Tec's on 223's, but see no reason why they would not work on a hard kicker as they meet tough Military tests.

I have a couple of early EO-Tec's that I am going to test on a 375 H&H and a Blaser D 99 Duo 9,3x74R-12ga drilling.

I also thing the Doctor Optik would be an excellent choice. I shot one on an AR 223 and loked it.

They are very light and compact. The 4 minute dot is the correct one for a rifle.

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