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Therefore, I have packed away my reloading gear and am awaiting the money fariey to bring me some moola to build a shop out back. Until then I need ammo that can be purchased (i.e. Federal) and shot without much ado.

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If money is a consideration, then you want to stay away from factory ammo for the 470NE (i.e. Federal) @ $240 per 20 round box, you can load a hell of a lot of 450NE!

The Ruger No1 H tropical chambered for 458 Win Mag can be re-bored, and chambered for the 470NE, but only those rifles below a certain serial number. I don't remember what the cut off number is, but it is a way back. It seems the quarter rib screws, and positioning pins are seated to deep in the barrel steel, and the chambering will cut into the bottom of thse holes, or leave the steel too thin under them. The 450NE3 1/4", and the 450#2 NE can both be chambered in the No1H 458 win Mag without hitting them, but the best re-chamber job is to the 458 LOTT, and it can be loaded down to the 450NE 3 1/4" pressures, and velocities without any trouble at all! No extractor work at all, and factory ammo is available, as well. In a pinch, factory 458 Win Mag ammo can be safely fired in the Lott chamber! Once the brass is aquired, the LOTT is cheap to load, and the choice of cheap .458 dia bullets is inexoustable!

I have a brand new, un-fired Ruger No1 H 458 Win Mag on hand, that is scheduled to be rechambered to either 458 LOTT, 450#2 NE,or 450NE 3 1/4", as we speak! I'm leaning toward the 458 LOTT!

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.458 WM, .458 Lott, .450x31/4" NE, .450 No.2, .470 NE etc, etc, are all pretty much clones. Why not step up a notch for a real improvement in horsepower with a .500x3"NE??

The astronomical cost of .470 NE ammo makes it a handloading proposition anyway!

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I agree with 470Rigby, if you don't mind rebarreling, the 500NE is one of my all time favorites. The recoil of the 500NE is not soft, but is different from any bottlenecked cartridge. The BN cartridges seem to "SNAPP" the recoil to give the FELT RECOIL a sharper jab.

Just rebarreling is not all that will be done, however, even with the 470NE. Extractor, and opening the loading trough for the large rim of either, as they are both built on the 500 case!

I have had several No1s chambered for NE rounds over the years, and I loved every one of them. I'm now thinking about going the other way, as I need one re-barreled, and chambered for 9.3X74R,for a scoped rifle to go along with my 9.3X74R double rifle.

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DUGABOY1, and MacD37 founding member of DRSS www.doublerifleshooterssociety.com
"If I die today, I have had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"

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I used to benchrest a .500x3" NE Westley Richards Falling Block, complete with steel butt-plate, that all up weighed in at 9 pounds!

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Was this with full power loads?
How many shots to a session?

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Yep! 10 shots was about the limit though! I still remember shooting it in a 20 round Single Shot Rifle event at a BGRC event in Sydney - 10 shots taken in the sitting position too! Won the event against blokes shooting .303's and the like!! - but I was a bit younger and a bit more then!

BTW - I know the bloke that picked up those Simplex .500 NE dies - he bought them for speccing and will resell them - HIS asking price is now $180! Let me know if you are still interested....

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Re: 458 Tropical Rechambered to 470 NE [re: 4seventy]




Flash!!

You cannot rechamber a 458 to a 470 N.E., you can rebarrel it, or you can do a 450-3.25 rechamber....

Ray Atkinson

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Ray, you talkin to me?!

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