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chuck375
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.495 A-Square
      #106896 - 06/06/08 10:48 PM

Anyone have one of these? It seems like a cartridge with a classic shape that will give you a 600g bullet at 2150 fps with less recoil than a 505 Gibbs or 500 A-Square, doesn't have a rebated rim like the 500 Jeffery, and cases are a lot cheaper than the Gibbs or Jeffery. It doesn't have that classic African cartridge mystique however, which does mean something in my book ...

Chuck

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Re: .495 A-Square [Re: chuck375]
      #106900 - 06/06/08 11:18 PM

The rationale for this particular round is discussed in some detail in the recent DANGEROUS GAME RIFLES book. (I am on the train, and recall this is the correct title, but it is by Terry Wieland --again perhaps misspelled) and was published last year. There is also a writeup about 'why' in ANY SHOT YOU WANT, the A-Square manual, which you should read for the interesting one of two page discussion of each of the many big bore cartridges by A-Square and the other, traditional and wildcat big bore and NE rounds.

I have a friend who owns a bolt action in this chambering and likes it. I haven't discussed the particular issues you ask with him, so I can't help further.

However, it would seem that your suppositions make sense and this should be a good choice for a custom rifle. I made a similar choice recently when I acquired my first Empire rifle, a lovely, new build, short action 98 with a full Mannlicher stock in 7X57. The rifle had incredible wood and build quality and was a delight to shoot. (I think the pictures are still at their website under inventory.)

In any event and more to the point, they had a big bolt action, short barreled 98 magnum action bolt gun listed in a "505 Empire." That turns out to be a 505 Gibbs, but loaded with a 600grn bullet rather than the much lighter slug in the 'normal' 505 and loaded to a lower pressure. (There is a write up on this and a few other "Empire" loads they are developing based on more traditional nitro loads such as the 470 NE at the Empire website www.empirerifles.com) Loaded ammunition is available from Empire and from Superior Ammo.

The rifle is finishing up now and will be here in a month or so. Since I have shot a lot of rounds through a CZ Safari Custom in 505 Gibbs, I will fill you in on the differences as soon as I put some rounds through the new gun.

Dave

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JabaliHunter
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Re: .495 A-Square [Re: dnovo]
      #106913 - 07/06/08 12:58 AM

Wieland certainly has a high regard for this round in his book. If he wasn't wedded to Dakota and the .458 Lott and his Mexican Rigby .500NE it sounds like the cartridge he'd have picked... A .495 Heym Express or Empire would be a real treat IMHO

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chuck375
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Re: .495 A-Square [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #106951 - 07/06/08 10:58 AM

Thanks Dave and Jabali, I have a lovely CZ 550 Safari Classic in 375 H&H and am planning to rebarrel it to something bigger. Right now 470 Capstick is leading the pack, but the 495 A-Square is intriguing. Congratulations on your Empire rifle, they are gorgeous.

Chuck

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JabaliHunter
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Re: .495 A-Square [Re: chuck375]
      #106967 - 07/06/08 07:31 PM

You would have a much greater selection of bullets for practice loads as well compared to the .470 which makes the rifle much more fun and useful too for smaller game hunting...

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dnovo
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Re: .495 A-Square [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #106972 - 07/06/08 09:09 PM

Nothing wrong with the Capstick either. I find my 'ugly little fella' that Gary Reeder bought easy to shot and to reload. Dave

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