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4seventy
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Buff on a Budget
#25256 - 27/01/05 11:51 PM

Ok all you guys with Africa hunting exp.
Lets say an Aussie fella was thinking he'd maybe like to do a once in a lifetime hunt for a Cape Buffalo Bull.
He wants to hunt an old bull, and he wants to hunt it up close in the thick stuff, none of this long range pick the best horns from the heard.
He would like to kill a bull with good boss, wide and hard, and is prepared to sacrifice some horn width and depth in exchange for heavy boss.
He doesn't want to hunt any plains game, just one bull, maybe two if the funds can handle it.
He doesn't care if he has to work his butt off in order to get this bull and does not expect or want a "luxury" type of hunt.

So, it's..Old bull, heavy boss, in close.
He doesn't want the headskin, only the horns and skull.
He would maybe organize a second hunter for a 2 on 1 deal.

Is there a way this dude can do a hunt like that without paying a kings ransom, or is he living in the past and just dreamin'?

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AspenHill
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: 4seventy]
#25258 - 28/01/05 12:01 AM

Alan,

Good outfits with top quality areas in Zim are charging $850 per day 1X1. It's $800 a day 2X1. Trophy fee between $2000 and $2500. If you find them for less in Zim it will not be a quality hunt. Either the quality or numbers of buff are going to be lacking.

Botswana is $1250 a day.

RSA charges somewhere around $14,000 TROPHY FEE on a TB free buff. They will probably want at least $450 a day on day rate.

Tanzania will cost a hunter about $13,000 for one buffalo inclusive 'cept airfare. All quotes here in US dineros.

In your dreams?

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: AspenHill]
#25259 - 28/01/05 12:49 AM

Ann at those prices it sure does make Australia look good for overseas hunters.
Who would want to shoot a cape buff and hang it on the wall anyway.
They are just plain butt ugly.
Al

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AspenHill
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
#25269 - 28/01/05 02:13 AM

Alan,

What are water buffs going for? Seems like what I see is a short 5 dayer at about 7K total. I hate short hunts.

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GeorgeS
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: AspenHill]
#25272 - 28/01/05 02:42 AM

Alan,

It doesn't matter what sort of accomodations you care for, buff hunt prices are pretty much the same in each country.
The outfitters know that this is a 'desirable' animal (meaning people will line up and pay full price), so there is no impetus to discount them until the end of the season, where there might be a few animals left on quota. Contact a number of outfitters, and ask to be put on a list for leftover animals.

Ann,

They keep those hunts down to five days, because visiting hunters can't stand more than five days of drinking that swill the Aussies call beer.

George

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4seventy
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: AspenHill]
#25285 - 28/01/05 10:23 AM

Ann,
Thanks for the info.
The dream may just come true yet!
With the Zim hunting, what sort of horn size could be expected and is it up close in the thick stuff type of hunt?

7G is about the norm here for asian buff I guess.
I would think that most Aussie operators would be ok with hunts longer than 5 days so long as they could provide enough other/lesser game to keep the hunters occupied.
Last year I did an 8 day hunt for 2 clients mainly for boar but one hunter also took a really good cleanskin bull. (scrub bull)

George,
Sounds to me like they might have had you drinking that awfull southern ozzie stuff and you're right, it's shockin' beer!

You need to try some of our Sunshine State suds as at the end of a big hunting day it tastes just beautiful!

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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: GeorgeS]
#25449 - 31/01/05 12:07 AM

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They keep those hunts down to five days, because visiting hunters can't stand more than five days of drinking that swill the Aussies call beer.

We have something called "Coopers" in the South which we keep a nice secret. We export the piss to the rest of the world and they enjoy it.

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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: AspenHill]
#25451 - 31/01/05 12:11 AM

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Subject: Re: Buff on a Budget

Alan,

What are water buffs going for? Seems like what I see is a short 5 dayer at about 7K total. I hate short hunts.

Ann

The trouble is in the really productive areas you take your buff by day 2. Pigs were thin on the ground where I was and could be hunted on being discovered but purposely looking for them would entail a lot of kilometres. I suppose they could be baited and that might work better. Pigs, fishing plus waterfowl in season are always a possibility.

Another cheaper daily rate hunt can easily be added to the buff hunt in another area.

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: Buff on a Budget [Re: AspenHill]
#25460 - 31/01/05 02:22 AM

Ann I guess I should put things in perspective.
I've never paid any one to guide me on a hunting trip ,and I cut out the trophy fee on my last buff by supplying fresh meat to the local natives.
So I have never paid a trophy fee.
Obviously a different situation when you fly into a country to hunt where all is supplied and you need a PH to get you in and out with your selected trophy.
My last trip to the Territory was about 8-9 weeks and I still recon it wasnt long enough..

The last time someone mentioned trophy buff fee's ,I believe it was $A1500-00 or there abouts.

I heard the other day that they had a minimum bag limit on CANE TOADS. Minimum of 100 per day or else !!!!!
So dont forget to pack your cane toad putter if heading this way.........

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