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Lynx
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'canned' lion charge video
      #13372 - 12/04/04 01:07 PM

came across this 'lion hunting video' on another forum. Close shave for the client.....

http://users.skynet.be/lion charge

Lynx

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475Guy
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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Lynx]
      #13420 - 13/04/04 09:55 AM

This is probably the same old one that's been going around for about a year or so. Close shave yes but definitely unsportsmanlike. Definitely a canned lion hunt. It was done on a lion breeding farm in South Africa.

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: 475Guy]
      #13428 - 13/04/04 12:21 PM

I guess that those bred lions don't know how to bite!! Luckerly!

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Gibbs505]
      #13430 - 13/04/04 12:26 PM

It was proabably drugged or otherwise under the infuence of.

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: 475Guy]
      #13432 - 13/04/04 12:29 PM

That only makes it worse for me!!

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Gibbs505]
      #13617 - 17/04/04 07:18 AM

He didn't look drugged to me, he looked like he wanted some...and near got it too...

Even canned a Lion is a Lion, and nothing to take lightly it seems...

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: atkinson6]
      #13622 - 17/04/04 08:50 AM

That lion looked pretty pissed off to me. I think it would be interesting to talk to the guy shooting and get his take or the PH for that matter.

Anybody ever talked to the hunter......or rather the guy firing the gun.

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DUGABOY1
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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: GringoCazador]
      #13719 - 20/04/04 07:31 AM

I'm not saying it isn't canned, but who has the information that this is a canned lion, or where it was shot??????

I agree with Ray, if it is canned, the shooter almost got his can bitten!

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #14101 - 29/04/04 06:42 AM

I found it interesting that the client was using a prarie dog gun. Notice the recoil on the last shot by the client. Also, how many times did the lion get hit? The PH & his helper looked good holding their ground, but their shots didn't seem to have much affect until the Texas Heart Shot. Am I missing something?

I haven't been to Africa hunting yet, but I'm trying to learn what I can before 2006.

It's always easy to second guess these important moments.

By the way I really love this site

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Minkman]
      #14134 - 30/04/04 03:29 AM

Welcome aboard Minkman, this is a very good website!

I don't know what you mean by "PRARIE DOG GUN" but though the clip is quite jerkey on my computer, I suspect it happened a lot faster in the field! The rifle he is useing is, I suspect a 375 H&H, or one of the WBY mags, with a 3-9x40 scope which is, along with the caliber, common on that type rifle, for lion hunting, usually carried set on 3X.

Most people have no idea how fast a lion can cover 50 yds, even with horrendous wounds. In an all out charge, a lion can cover 50 YDS in less than 4 seconds, and one is lucky to get more than one shot with a bolt rifle. He is hard to put down after he's been hit, and gets his adrenalin up, with any rifle. The only shot that will put him down for the count is one that hits the brain, or spine,or shocks those things suffeciently, to shut down the Centeral nervous system, once he starts. Addionally, he is hard to hit, because of a combination of his lightening speed, and the fact that he is lower than you, and charges in a slight curveing route to you. The angle for sighting is changeing constantly, both for lead, dirrection, and elevation. Many of the old hands at lion hunting of old, would drop to their knees when charged by a lion. This took away one of the angles by puting the rifle on the same elevation as the lion, leaving only lead to deal with. The elevation staying the same from a ON THE KNEES shot, throughout the charge.

Even on a canned lion "SHOOT", it is still dangerous when the lion decides to get nasty. A fence is no draw back to the lion getting on you, uless it is between him, and you! In this case, if it is a canned hunt, it almost turned out in the lion's favor!

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way, in favor of canned hunts of any kind, but the fact it is, being canned doesn't take the danger away, when lion are the target!

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #15197 - 26/05/04 12:15 AM

I cant open the link.Any suggestions??

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Bigfive]
      #15200 - 26/05/04 12:57 AM

Dantri

I've got a copy of the file. I'll upload it to my host and post the link here.



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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: Bigfive]
      #15237 - 26/05/04 06:39 PM

Try this:

http://www.decaza.com/vids/lion.wmv

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Re: 'canned' lion charge video [Re: 470Nitro]
      #15412 - 01/06/04 07:22 PM

The PH was South African but it is difficult to say where the hunt took place.There is no proof of it being a canned hunt for that matter.
What do you base your accusations for "canned" on?????????
I also don't think that lion was drugged or anything.All its movements looked pretty natural to me.
The PH and his back-up fired a couple of shots but let somebody bounce a tennisball towards you and try to hit the ball.The ball is bigger than a lions brain and I doubt that any of you will hit the ball!!!!!! easier said than done.
I would like to know where this took place and whether it was a canned hunt.I know a lot of land owners buy a trophy animal and let it roam freely on their land and it was put there for a specific hunter who booked it.But a lion on a 3000ha or 5000ha or 10 000ha can hardly be called canned!!

But still it might or it might not be.

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