| lancaster |
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| 31/03/11 05:56 AM |
Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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must say that this drilling was breathtaking when I see it first time
Collath in Frankfurt a.d. Oder
shotgun barrels for the needlefire cartridge No. 3 (16/65 works) and the rifle barrel for the 11x65R
of course, the drilling needs competent help from a good gunsmith to come back to his former glory. barrels 70,5cm long while the rifle barrels end 1cm before
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3256866
| mehulkamdar |
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| 01/04/11 01:30 PM |
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Re: Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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Beautiful and waiting for a master restoration as you point out! Hope we get to hear from whoever buys and restores her!
| lancaster |
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| 01/04/11 08:06 PM |
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Re: Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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the special thing about this drilling is the rifle cartridge, the 11x65r Collath. we dont know much about it and the books have it allways wrong
COTW call it a 10,75x65R, dont have a pic
again but here with a pic and we thought it before: its the 10,75x65R Gründig
its a mayor mistake because the 10,75 Gründig is the rimmed version of the 10,75x68
its not the first time heard about a super rare 10,75x65R Collath and I am sure it never exist.
this is the 11x65R, dont they think Collath could not distinguish between 10,75 and 11mm
and loaded with a Tesco Bullet, available in 9,3mm, 11,15, 11.5 but not in 10,75
the mysterious 11x65R must be the common 11,15x65R LK loaded with nitro for black and the 11,15mm Tesco bullet and I will try to confirm this. BTW, the Collath catalog also give the same 3 gramm Rottweil powder No.5 load we find with other NfB loads for the 11,15x65R
the Collath shotgun cartridge
| vegard_dino |
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| 02/04/11 03:06 AM |
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Re: Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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Oh, nice
Thanks for sharing. How is it with brass for the rifle caliber?
| lancaster |
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| 02/04/11 05:27 AM |
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Re: Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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believe best way is 9,3x74R brass but you need a lathe for turn the rim diameter down
| lancaster |
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| 08/04/11 07:17 PM |
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Re: Collath, Frankfurt/Oder, a Drilling
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in the name of our science I contact the seller about the drilling. knowing that it dont comes so good if trying to look super clever in such an investigation all was done very polite. I was trying to tell him my doubt about the correct cartridge designation. he send me a mail that the 10,75x65R Collath realy exist, its very clearly described in "Cartridges of the World" and he have some original cartridges. at all he was so convinced from his truth you had buy the story without a gun from him. send him fact's, show him that the author of CotW never ever had seen such a round and that the very bad illustration for this cartridge hide
it was stolen with the measurments from Datig "Cartridges for Collector's"
then I ask for pics fom his cartridges with some measurments.
as you may believe, he dont write me back and so I am not ably to prove the existence of the super rare 10,75x65R Collath cartridge!
you can call it negativ proof
| chapmen |
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| 12/05/11 06:04 AM |
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I know the owner from our shooting range, let me say it in this way: i dont give an penny on that what he says.
He is always telling to everybody of his wonderfull and rare old rifles, but no one have seen them, he says that they are to rare to show them around........
| lancaster |
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| 12/05/11 12:18 PM |
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although a existens of 10.75 x65R Collath was doubtful for me since a long time I investigated this case without prejudice.
if it would have shown that the cartridge exists, why not?
We have too little information about many old german big bore cartridges . the conduct of the seller of this weapon have show me the truth. if you have ammunition books in which the 10.75 mm Collath is listed you can make a tick behind the cartridge - extinct
| WBD |
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| 01/06/16 01:12 PM |
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The cartridge shown in Datig and COW is the 10.75x65R Grundig not the Collath.
The 10.75x75R Collath exists, is super rare and is a slightly necked version of the larger cased 11,15x65R LK (which is the same as case as the 11x65R Collath).
Refer Dixon - European Sporting Cartridges (vol 1).
| lancaster |
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| 04/06/16 02:51 PM |
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believe when see it, cartridge with headstamp or Collath catalog