Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
02/06/14 11:05 AM
.22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Whether for hunting or just plinking at targets ...

For me, .22 l.r. rifles return me to my roots of shooting, as it probably does for a lot of folks here.

I started out learning about firearms safety and marksmanship on a single shot .22, specifically my Dad's old Remington 510 TargetMaster. He got it for his 12th birthday in 1941.

Using the factory buckhorn sights he shot it for 20+ years, killing a huge number of squirrels, rabbits, possums, racoons, et al, but sometime after I came along he scoped it. Today it wears a different scope, but it's still super accurate with ammo it likes and it likes a fairly wide range at that.

I later acquired a Rem. 514 (also a single-shot) to which I had my 'smith fix a receiver-mounted aperture. This thing has a great trigger, and with the aperture, it's about as accurate as Dad's scoped 510, at least out to as far as I can see a target and hold. It's presently serving as a "trainer" for a 12yr old great-nephew.

My .22 l.r. family:

L-to-R:
Rem. 510; Rem. 514; Ruger All-Weather 77/22; CZ Scout; CZ 453 (foreground)
.





tinker
(.416 member)
02/06/14 03:27 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

That 453 in the foreground - which variant is it?
Is the barrel profile and bolt handle as-shipped from CZ?


Ash
(.400 member)
02/06/14 06:02 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Good thread! I'll bust out my 4 soon (Well, i bought one for dad for fathers day, so i've 3..)

Am planning to have a safe with just .22lr rifles. At the moment i've got a Slazenger model 12, a Norinco JW15, Krico something or another, and a Winchester 320


To go on the list of wants: Stevens Favourite, Winchester 1906 pump, a lever of some make, small frame martini (with a slim foreend, not a target rifle), a flobert, and a rolling block (not the favourite though) Oh! And a mini sharps would be nice.


Well_Well_Well
(.333 member)
02/06/14 06:33 PM
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I might wait until my lithgow arrives.....

Mike_Bailey
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02/06/14 09:25 PM
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Just the one, a little Browning take down



Ripp
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03/06/14 12:11 AM
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Quote:

Just the one, a little Browning take down






My grandfather had one of those--great little gun..did a fair amount of shooting with one as a kid..this model was actually listed as one of the all time greats for a classic .22 rimfire..

Ripp


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
03/06/14 02:32 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

That 453 in the foreground - which variant is it?
Is the barrel profile and bolt handle as-shipped from CZ?






Tinker: the addition of the "tactical" bolt knob was a custom job by a local smith. If I recall correctly, the knob itself is a Badger Ordinance item that I got thru Brownells way back when, and just had it laying around for this project. Yes, it gets noticed A LOT at the range.

This 453 has what I'd call a medium heavy barrel. It's significantly thinner than what I'm seeing on the 455s coming into the LGSs lately.

When I purchased this 453, it was my intention to make it into a cheap-shooting .22 analog to my precision .308 Remington PPS. Along with the bolt knob, the local 'smith also channeled out the foreend of the stock so as to keep the barrel free-floated. Then I set it up with a 3-12x scope, bipod, stock pack, sling, etc. The 1" Osprey scope actually has a dual illumination feature that let's you choose either red or green for lighting-up the mil-dot reticle.

Though discontinued now, the 453 was essentially a 452 with a set trigger and much nicer wood. The wood on this one is really well-grained, so maybe I lucked out (the pics don't do it justice).

A screw inside the trigger guard controls the pull of the set trigger, and I've got mine set pretty light - again to mimick the sweet let-off of the Jewel trigger on my .308 precision rig.

Don't have a pic of the target to show you, but from 50yds using the set-trigger I put 6-shots into something like .400" - basically a small ragged hole. Admittedly, this was done off a bench, using the bipod with a bag under the rear of the stock, but the amazing thing was, the ammo was ordinary Winchester fodder (36gn HPs, I think), not the super-grade Match stuff, like from Eley.

The 453s just flat out shoot, but so do most CZ .22s.


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
03/06/14 02:34 AM
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Just the one, a little Browning take down






Nice! I've seen a few of those Brownings over the years at the local range.


DORLEAC
(.333 member)
03/06/14 03:21 AM
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Mine.
FN-Browning .22 auto, 1946 BRNO mod.1 and 1937 "Presentation" Mauser 410.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com


















Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
03/06/14 07:24 AM
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All of those rim fires are awesome, Dorleac, but I really like that Brno #1. Thanks for sharing those pics!

kuduae
(.400 member)
04/06/14 01:13 AM
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BSA Martini No.6 take down, Parker-Hale tang sight, Lyman front sight, “Sornet” (Schmidt & Bender) 2 3/4x scope.

Early, still “tgf” marked Brno mod.1. Scope 2 3/4x Geco , copy of Zeiss Zielklein once made by Schmidt & Bender for the trade. Not as nice as the one reworked by DORLEAC

A mix up of parts: long time ago bought the crudely restocked barreled action of a Mauser Es 340 for DM 60.-, about US$ 40.-. Some years later found the stock only of a rare Es 350 “Meisterschaftsbüchse” at a gunshow, Euro 40.- = $ 55.-. The action fits the inletting perfectly, the slightly too wide barrel channel took a bit of glass bedding. Scoped with an early Gerard “G” 4x, 7/8” tube scope.


gryphon
(.450 member)
04/06/14 05:14 AM
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I`m not showing my old Krico among such exalted company.
Its scratched and dented,wears a nondescript scope without a brand on it (yes) has a trigger that creeps what seems like an inch but puts them all into a fingernail @ 50.
I love the old girl and you wouldnt fit the rabbits she has rolled into the bed of a big Chevy truck.
In just two winters alone she took around 4000 rabbits in drive and spotlight shooting around the farms.Ah the good days before the Calici virus was released in Australia, or before it was effective.Iits actually good for the environment but the up and coming young fellas will never see the rabbit numbers again.
They gave just about every kid in Australia an incredible amount of learning to shoot/hunt/stalk and every kid and adult had an ordinary .22.


Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
04/06/14 05:28 AM
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4000 !! Jezz, those were the days, you never see rabbit numbers like that in the UK or Spain now, every 5 or 6 years they come back for a year or two then a new variant of myxxy kills them all off, shame really, best

Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
04/06/14 09:56 AM
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My favorite 22LR hunting rifle. CZ 452FS.
1/2" 10 shot groups all day long with bulk pack Winchester 36HP's. .400" groups with subsonic match ammo.
Squirrels hate this rifle!


Ripp
(.577 member)
04/06/14 10:13 AM
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Quote:

My favorite 22LR hunting rifle. CZ 452FS.
1/2" 10 shot groups all day long with bulk pack Winchester 36HP's. .400" groups with subsonic match ammo.
Squirrels hate this rifle!





I love rifles with the mannlicher stocks...had a Ruger years ago in .270..didn't shoot very well , but loved how it handled and looked...that is a really nice looking rifle--congrats

Ripp


Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
04/06/14 10:33 AM
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Thanks Ripp!
I too like the looks and feel of mannlicher stocked rifles.
This one was made in 2003.
The wood is evenly figured on both sides.
The scope is a Weaver 4x28 rimfire scope with the parrallex set at 50 yards.
I have never had a problem with any zero shift or accuracy problems with rifle.
I'm still on the hunt for a CZ 550FS in 6.5x55.


Grenadier
(.375 member)
04/06/14 03:03 PM
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Here is a Browning with an unusual maple stock. Still hasn't been fired yet. It looked so sweet that I decided not to explore my feminine side but to give it to my daughter instead. The figure goes all the way around, is visible on both sides, and shows in the forend as well. My photos are too poor to see the action engraving.


Miniature .22LR falling block rifle with express sights, case colors, and tang safety.


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
04/06/14 10:47 PM
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Can't believe how nicely-grained the wood is on some of these rifles, guys. Wow!

Grenadier - that is a beautiful .22 Falling Block!


Ripp
(.577 member)
05/06/14 12:06 AM
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ironically this article come in my email yesterday from PETERSON'S HUNTING..thought I would post it here..

Ripp

http://www.petersenshunting.com/2014/06/...ily+Newsletters


DarylS
(.700 member)
05/06/14 02:11 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Nothing fancy, it just works.




Igorrock
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05/06/14 02:13 AM
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Quote:

article come in my email yesterday from PETERSON'S HUNTING



Writer of this article has probably never seen any Anschutz or SAKO rimfires...Even Winchester m/52 and Steyr Zephyr are missing.....


Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
05/06/14 04:17 AM
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Anschutz certainly should be there, lovely .22s. Ref the quote on a hot used cartridge from the browning down your sleeve, try down your shorts !! Happened to me here in Spain one summer, the shell went down the front of my shirt and hit the top of the waistband of my shorts. Immediate reaction, pull waistband out yo get rid of said shell, shell then dropped down into the crown jewels but luckily was by then cool enough not to brand me. The policeman practicing with his 9mm was laughing a lot though !

awanderingbear
(.224 member)
05/06/14 09:08 AM
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Igorrock, indeed a Zephyr deserves to be shown.

I'd be glad to post pictures of a Zephyr, but Photobucket and hunter101 are too frustrating, force advertising on a user (it eats up my limited monthly GBs), have to join yet another place, for a basic laptop user. So I'll just be an observer sitting up in the cheap seats, merely a reader, or maybe now and then making a written reply.

Yes, I'm involved with a couple of other Forums, but with different themes than found here (the one here is great), but they've a less complicated way to post pictures. NOT trying to be negative here. I do like the information and folks in the Forum here, k.


Claydog
(.375 member)
05/06/14 09:44 AM
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The Belgian side lever single shot I bought for my son but can't get around to giving him.





Igorrock
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05/06/14 12:35 PM
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Quote:

but Photobucket and hunter101 are too frustrating, force advertising on a user


awanderingbear, test Tinypic, it works without any membership: http://tinypic.com/


Here is two versions of SAKO P94. It´s stock dimensions has designed to fit for adult person.





Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
05/06/14 03:18 PM
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Claydog, I love that side lever, best

awanderingbear
(.224 member)
05/06/14 03:41 PM
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Will give that tinypics site a try.
I'm gonna attempt to load pictures in this reply...
Well I'll be et fer a tater....it works!
Seems easier than trying to muddle through the other two places.
Looks like can still teach an old dawg a new trick - patience huh!
thank you very much
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Steyr Zephyr .22 LR, 1962, 19.5" barrel, DST's, Hensoldt/Wetzlar 2 1/2x scope, German #1 reticle (most likely this scope was manufactured by Carl Zeiss, as I have a twin to it that is marked Carl Zeiss), Hensoldt scope rings/mount, and this is not a Stoeger import marked carbine. Made from 1955 - 1971. Wonderfully accurate, able to hit empty .40 S&W brass cases out past 40 yards!







awanderingbear
(.224 member)
05/06/14 03:51 PM
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Stevens 'Favorite', .22 LR, has a Numrich Arms replacement barrel, Weaver 2 1/2x, 3/4" diameter scope.

Note the scope mounting, which keeps the scope low over the bore.






kuduae
(.400 member)
05/06/14 08:15 PM
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Quote:

Hensoldt/Wetzlar 2 1/2x scope, German #1 reticle (most likely this scope was manufactured by Carl Zeiss, as I have a twin to it that is marked Carl Zeiss)



It's the other way around. Post-war "Zeiss" west Germany scopes are actually made at the Hensoldt factory to Hensoldt's designs. Since about 1930 Hensoldt in Wetzlar was a subsidiary of Carl Zeiss, Jena. After 1945 Jena was in east Germany, GDR, and the original Zeiss factory was under communist control. Those parts of the Zeiss combine in western Germany were reorganized as "Carl Zeiss (West)". Zeiss west continued producing scopes and binoculars of Hensoldt designs (Dialytan, Diasta, Diatal. Diavari, Diapi etc.)at the Hensoldt, Wetzlar factory and sold them under the established Hensoldt name. About 1970 Zeiss West renamed the Hensoldt made line, selling them under the "Zeiss" label from then on. So the "made in West Germany" Zeiss scopes are really "Hensoldt" ones.


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
05/06/14 10:25 PM
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Nice Zephyr!

Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
05/06/14 10:43 PM
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Quote:

Nothing fancy, it just works.







Know what you mean, Daryl.

Even the least accurate of my .22s, a Ruger All-Weather 77-22 (got it back in '92 or '93), can still do the job and there's no fancy wood to worry about scuffing up.

Took this critter 3 weeks ago in the Veld I call my Back-Fortay ... I used a special "Coon-stopper" load.

44.8lbs of racoon.


Aguila's subsonic "sniper" load - 60gns of round-nosed lead stuffed into a .22 Short case.



Compared with most.22 fodder out there, it's accuracy is marginal.
But the shot was under 40yds, and that distance the subsonic slug will stay within "minute-of-coon" all day.


awanderingbear
(.224 member)
06/06/14 01:10 AM
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kuduae
Thank you for sharing the history on Hensoldt/Zeiss scopes.

This shows the labeling of each one. Excellent+ optics.





awanderingbear
(.224 member)
06/06/14 01:25 AM
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.22's certainly run the full spectrum, from the Zephyr to this small sized Crickett, as well as everything in between.

Shown is a Crickett brand .22 LR single shot, 3-7x Barska scope. This one is kept in the kitchen for easy access when a mischievous/destructive tree rat is spotted messing around in the backyard. Primarily use the Aguila .22 LR Super Colibre ammunition - 20 gr bullet, no powder, priming compound is the power source, about 550 fps. Adequately accurate out to 60 yards. The 20 gr pellet/bullet works well.







xausa
(.400 member)
06/06/14 08:06 AM
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This is the .22 I used to shoot myself into Master class in Outdoor Position shooting. Like all of my other .22 Match rifles it has been passed on to other shooters, now that I am no longer able to compete.



DarylS
(.700 member)
06/06/14 01:22 PM
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xausa = open class rifles are so cool!

Igorrock
(.400 member)
06/06/14 03:27 PM
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Quote:

This is the .22 I used to shoot myself into Master class in Outdoor Position shooting.



ANSCHÜTZ ?


tinker
(.416 member)
06/06/14 03:45 PM
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I love my anschutz.

Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
06/06/14 03:58 PM
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Blimey Xausa, that really is the "full monty" !

mauserand9mm
(.400 member)
06/06/14 04:11 PM
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CZ452 wearing a LedLenser P7 - night time bunny slayer



Evidence to support the claim:




Actually I used the light more frequently with the remote switch taped to the stock - I don't have any photos of this arrangement though.


kuduae
(.400 member)
06/06/14 06:38 PM
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As we are talking about .22 rifles here and already mentioned Hensoldt scopes: About 1960 Hensoldt, Wetzlar, made the smallest “rifle scope” I have seen yet, the DIAPI 1 ½ x 7.5. With a length of 137 mm = 5.4” and a tube diameter of merely 14 mm = .553” it is pen sized only.

Here it is mounted on my old Mauser single shot

This tiny precision instrument was designed as a rule breaker, a “non-scope” that is. The then rules of the DSB, the German Target Shooters Union, prohibited the use of scopes in small bore competition. But elderly shooters were allowed to use “optical aiming aids”, provided these did not exceed specified size and magnification limits and featured a simple post reticle. In short order both Hensoldt and competing Nickel, Marburg designed such tiny scopes that qualified as “optical aiming aids” to make use of the gap in the rules. Of course, soon the rules were changed and the gap allowing such scopes closed. So, after just a few years, there was no reason any more to make these miniature scopes. Now, they are quite rare.
The competing, but longer B.Nickel, Marburg, PICCOLO 1 1/2 x.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
06/06/14 08:16 PM
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Quote:

CZ452 wearing a LedLenser P7 - night time bunny slayer



Evidence to support the claim:




Actually I used the light more frequently with the remote switch taped to the stock - I don't have any photos of this arrangement though.




I found when I had a torch attached to my scope with a scope ring, that it made the rifle inaccurate. I had trouble hitting rabbits and hares in the head consistently like I used to. One day took the torch off, and suddenly the problem ceased. So then attached it to the barrel. Less of a problem but still affected accuracy. I think the only way is on the stock.


awanderingbear
(.224 member)
06/06/14 11:45 PM
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kuduae
Thank you very much for sharing the pictures and information about such a rare 'almost scope'.


xausa
(.400 member)
07/06/14 01:58 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

This is the .22 I used to shoot myself into Master class in Outdoor Position shooting.



ANSCHÜTZ ?




It is an ANSCHÜTZ 1413.


mauserand9mm
(.400 member)
07/06/14 09:52 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Quote:

CZ452 wearing a LedLenser P7 - night time bunny slayer



Evidence to support the claim:




Actually I used the light more frequently with the remote switch taped to the stock - I don't have any photos of this arrangement though.




I found when I had a torch attached to my scope with a scope ring, that it made the rifle inaccurate. I had trouble hitting rabbits and hares in the head consistently like I used to. One day took the torch off, and suddenly the problem ceased. So then attached it to the barrel. Less of a problem but still affected accuracy. I think the only way is on the stock.




Interesting point, I didn't notice any adverse affects shooting mine this way, but the ranges were close. I'll try and remember to take the torch and clamp to the range next time and see what the effects are from a bench rest.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
07/06/14 07:46 PM
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For example I used to use my .22 Magnum to head shoot fallow deer on my farm. I usually test shoot it before using it. The accuracy was terrible. Sudden change after pulling the bloody torch off the scope.

Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
08/06/14 05:52 AM
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This is my son's Anschutz 1913. He's a member of the University of Tennessee Rifle Team.


This is my Ballard schuetzen rifle.


This is my wife's Martini schuetzen


DarylS
(.700 member)
08/06/14 05:56 AM
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What calibre is your wife's Martini chambered for?

Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
08/06/14 06:04 AM
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Daryl,
all 3 are chambered for the .22LR.


Cazadero
(.375 member)
08/06/14 11:05 AM
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Emily's 1937 Winchester Model 63







DarylS
(.700 member)
08/06/14 11:15 AM
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tks Matt

My back will no longer allow me to use "The Olympic or Scheutzen Style" of holding.


Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
08/06/14 11:34 AM
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Daryl, sorry to here that about your back.
My wife and I (my son when he's home) compete in our local schuetzen club's monthly matches. Great fun! 200 yards offhand with a 22LR.
My Ballard with the Unertl 14X scope weighs in at a well balanced 16 pounds. The Martini is quite a bit lighter at 10 pounds as shown in the picture.


DarylS
(.700 member)
08/06/14 12:44 PM
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Harry Pope always said a Man's rifle (for Scheutzen shooting) should be 16 pounds and a Woman's rifle should be 12 pounds.
Of course, some discretion/leeway could be allowed for stature, strength, etc.

What I find quite interesting is that many men today, in a shooting game that requires ALL offhand shooting, struggle with or say anything 8 pounds or over is too heavy.

I am referring to ML Rifle Rendezvous trail walk, round ball rifle or smootbore shooting - where we up in the North prefer longer, 42" (or better) barreled rifles of 10 to 12 pounds for a superior hold on target. With a flintlock rifle, ie; slow lock time, the heavier the better.



Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
08/06/14 05:54 PM
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That Anschutz 1913 looks like something from Flash Gordon I don´t like synthetic stuff but that looks brilliant !!

Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
09/06/14 12:58 AM
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Daryl, heavier is definetly better for a steady hold. I haven't been to a rendezvous in many years but Fathers Day weekend I plan on stopping by the Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin rendezvous and taking a look around.

Mike, the 1913 appearance does take some time to get used to. It helps to think of it as being stocked in "silver maple" with "ebony" accents. Once you shoot it you dont care what it looks like!!


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
09/06/14 01:20 AM
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Wow, Iowa's son's Anschutz 1913 is a really nice!


Quote:

That Anschutz 1913 looks like something from Flash Gordon




Yeah, you beat me to it. It's looks really futuristic. Like what Mr. Spock would've use on the University of Vulcan Rifle Team, ... if, you know, the Univ. of Vulcan had a Rifle Team, ... and Mr. Spock had been a shooter back in the day.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
09/06/14 03:06 PM
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This is a very good thread. Shows big bore nuts like everyone else also had a .22 and enjoyed it at some point in their lives and probably still. Also a great thread anyone and everyone can join in on.

DORLEAC
(.333 member)
09/06/14 06:09 PM
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A seldom encountered 1953 Hämmerli free rifle and a vintage 1413 Anschutz made in the eighties.
The Swiss Hämmerli bears the best .22 barrel I have ever seen.
In n°42 1951 Stoeger "Shooter Bible" it was priced 420-$…!

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Hämmerli free rifle






1413 Anschutz





xausa
(.400 member)
10/06/14 10:47 PM
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Quote:


This is my Ballard schuetzen rifle.




This is my Ballard prone rifle. C.C. Johnson barrel.



Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
11/06/14 08:41 AM
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xausa,
Nice looking rifle. Is your action cast or forged?
Mine started life as a #3 gallery rifle around 1883. I aquired it as a relic and used only the action to build the schuetzen rifle.


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
12/06/14 09:40 AM
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All these single-shots, high-tech or not, are really sharp looking.

Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
12/06/14 09:58 AM
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My brand spanking new CZ 452 Ultra Lux - literally just out of the box from being purchased yesterday - plus the aforesaid Aguila 60gn SSS load, produced this one-shot stop across the Veld I call my backyard.



Hadn't even thought of fidgeting with the sights when I first spotted the bunny nibbling in the back garden. Loaded it quickly, stepped out on the deck, and held spot-on. Mr. Bun was D.R.T.

The Ultra Lux has a 28.6" barrel, but any of these CZs are shooters. My tiny Scout, which is scoped, puts its favorite ammo under an inch @ 50yds. That's about as far as I'd use it on squirrels anyway. Can't wait to see what this UL can do at 100yds w/ the hi-vel stuff.

Ruger All-Weather 77-22 (L); CZ 452 Scout (R).





Ripp
(.577 member)
12/06/14 12:20 PM
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Quote:

This is a very good thread. Shows big bore nuts like everyone else also had a .22 and enjoyed it at some point in their lives and probably still. Also a great thread anyone and everyone can join in on.




I would be willing to bet the majority of people on here started shooting as a kid with a bb gun or .22 rimfire.

While in my gun room last night working on one of my rifles I took a glance around in the room and gun safe--think I am currently the owner of around 8-10 22's as we speak..ranging from old Winchester single shots to Ruger 10-22's to an Anshutz or two..to my first one my parents bought me at the age of 10..a "coast to coast" 22 ..not even sure who made it ..by today' standards or probably even then, its pretty crude..but they bought it for me and is still one of my all time favorites as to sentiment..

Ripp


Ripp
(.577 member)
12/06/14 12:25 PM
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Quote:

Harry Pope always said a Man's rifle (for Scheutzen shooting) should be 16 pounds and a Woman's rifle should be 12 pounds.
Of course, some discretion/leeway could be allowed for stature, strength, etc.

What I find quite interesting is that many men today, in a shooting game that requires ALL offhand shooting, struggle with or say anything 8 pounds or over is too heavy.

I am referring to ML Rifle Rendezvous trail walk, round ball rifle or smootbore shooting - where we up in the North prefer longer, 42" (or better) barreled rifles of 10 to 12 pounds for a superior hold on target. With a flintlock rifle, ie; slow lock time, the heavier the better.






Think this is all part of the pussification of the world ..:)

Don't want anything that is toooo heavy and might make you actually work or be a bit strong or heaven forbid in shape..

Ripp


DarylS
(.700 member)
13/06/14 12:49 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I still have my Dad's M60 Cooey - purchased when he was a Sgt. in the RCAF stationed in Kenora, Ont near the end of the 2nd War. Back then, the stocks were walnut.

GG375
(.333 member)
13/06/14 05:15 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!


I just had word that my custom .22 is ready to be shipped to me. I designed it to resemble a classic big bore rifle. It has a modern action, much modified. It will be interesting to see if anyone can recognise the action .

Will post photos in a week or so when she arrives.

Thanks to all for posting photos and details of your .22's...........I've really enjoyed this thread.

Cheers.

GG


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
13/06/14 07:11 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:


I just had word that my custom .22 is ready to be shipped to me. I designed it to resemble a classic big bore rifle. It has a modern action, much modified. It will be interesting to see if anyone can recognise the action .

Will post photos in a week or so when she arrives.
***
Cheers.
GG




Please post them. Looking forward to seeing the outcome of the custom work.

Truthfully, that's why I grabbed the CZ 452 UL while I could.
Except for the hog-back stock, it "sort of" resembles an African big bore.

But with its 28" tube it doesn't look like a .22l.r. either.


Ripp
(.577 member)
14/06/14 01:35 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Anschutz certainly should be there, lovely .22s. Ref the quote on a hot used cartridge from the browning down your sleeve, try down your shorts !! Happened to me here in Spain one summer, the shell went down the front of my shirt and hit the top of the waistband of my shorts. Immediate reaction, pull waistband out yo get rid of said shell, shell then dropped down into the crown jewels but luckily was by then cool enough not to brand me. The policeman practicing with his 9mm was laughing a lot though !




Semi=-autos are bad that way..have used them quite a bit when we get into a bit patch of gophers..have had them go down my shirt sleeves, front of the shirt or land on your leg if wearing shorts..they really burn..

Ripp


8X57
(.300 member)
08/07/14 02:13 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Bog standard BRNO 1952


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
08/07/14 09:16 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Nice BRNO!

Is that a can on the muzzle? If so, what make?


8X57
(.300 member)
08/07/14 10:49 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Nice BRNO!

Is that a can on the muzzle? If so, what make?




Yes it is. Make unknown. Inside is alternating steel washers and felt spacers. With subsonics all you can hear is the click of the bolt.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
18/07/14 05:08 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I have to include this rifle here. Not to discourage us mere mortals from adding any of ours in the future, but simply because it is such a wonderful piece of gun art in a practical sense.

Joel's (of Dorleac & Dorleac) creation from a Mauser MS350B action, his personal task and challenge, creating a man sized .22 RF rifle.









See more here on the NitroExpress.com forums "Mauser Archive".

DORLEAC & DORLEAC
http://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
19/07/14 11:41 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thanks for posting that, Nitro!

That is a frickin' awesome .22lr analog to a big bore rifle. Love it.
Plus, those pics are outstanding!


MFC
(.275 member)
21/07/14 02:29 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Indeed. This is the benchmark by which all other .22 rifles will be measured from here on. Sadly very few will ever measure up.

Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
22/07/14 07:36 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Indeed. This is the benchmark by which all other .22 rifles will be measured from here on. Sadly very few will ever measure up.




I agree. Outstanding work on that one.


Mike_Bailey
(.400 member)
22/07/14 07:11 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I said it before, that is the best .22 LR I have ever seen anywhere, I'd love to try it out !

NitroXAdministrator
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01/08/14 06:51 AM
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My ".22's". Cheating a little as I included my .22 centrefires but used for a lot of the same purposes.

From the top:
- .22 rimfire Anshutz 1450;
- .22 Magnum rimfire CZ 452;
- .222 Rimmed Martini-Cadet;
- .222 Rem Remington 788, my first rifle purchased when I was fifteen;
- .222 Rem Mauser M03 with the .222 barrel installed.



.22 Magnum rimfire CZ 452, and a .22 rimfire Anshutz 1450.



.222 Rimmed Martini-Cadet, .222 Rem Remington 788, and .222 Rem Mauser M03.




Blitzen doesn't miss an opportunity for a "photo bombing".


Nick_Adams
(.300 member)
01/08/14 09:32 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thanks for posting those great pics, Nitro!

Awesome collection, and I like the expression on Blitzen's face as well. It's very ... well, stoic and dignified.


steve20
(.224 member)
29/08/14 02:37 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!


BRNO Mod.2 (1977)




Alongside my .17HMR






Steve.


Deutsche_Vortrekker
(.333 member)
29/08/14 04:39 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Quote:

but Photobucket and hunter101 are too frustrating, force advertising on a user


awanderingbear, test Tinypic, it works without any membership: http://tinypic.com/


Here is two versions of SAKO P94. It´s stock dimensions has designed to fit for adult person.







Igorrock : Here is my Sako P94


Igorrock
(.400 member)
29/08/14 02:46 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Yes, P94 SAKO would be my choice if I have enough money to buy one. Even a used one costs here 600-800€.

Ripp
(.577 member)
30/08/14 02:35 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

http://hunting.about.com/od/shootingrev/...fire-review.htm

There is a neat little article about this in this months GUNS AND AMMO...tells about how a trick shooter shot 104,000 blocks or something like that only missing six..

Also states how at the factory they shot 75,000 rounds out of one of these without a single failure..impressive little gun..my brother had one when I was a little kid --remember it well..was a very accurate reliable rifle..

Ripp


Deutsche_Vortrekker
(.333 member)
31/08/14 10:11 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Yes, P94 SAKO would be my choice if I have enough money to buy one. Even a used one costs here 600-800€.



My Walther KKJ 22lr


lancaster
(.470 member)
12/10/14 08:17 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

my older son want to have a STG 44 so after mayn years I have now a 22 in the house agian. must say this are very clever guys who made this the market for such a .22 semi auto was more than ripe. it looks and feels like a real one and is anything you wish for the money today. wonder how many they have sold of this rifle till now but thinking it goes like hot cakes.
my son carry a heckler&koch g 36 at work and was instantly familar with the Sturmgewehr 44 design.



















NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
13/10/14 02:57 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thanks Gentlemen for posting some more. Very nice.

I'm amazed no one corrected me on the "Martini-Henry" above, should be of course "Martini-Cadet". Ha ha, one old blighter corrected me on that immediately elsewhere.

Lancaster

I'd kill a fuzzy wuzzy for a STG44 like that in .22 RF. What a fun rifle it would be. But I think the ammo consumption would be huge. Could not resist shooting off whole magazines at a time.

I assume it is a full size rifle from your comments, not scaled down much. What sort of price do they go for? Not that us peasants in Aust can own one.


lancaster
(.470 member)
14/10/14 02:15 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

so it dont reach australian terretorial waters? is sold for 620 euro here
the rifle is brand new and not fired till next saturday

here is the original and the copy side by side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrxyx4XF0B4


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
14/10/14 02:50 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thanks Lancaster. Interesting and a fun toy.

While I do have a licence which could be used to purchase one of these, I would think many obstacles would be put in the way to getting one in. Simply because of the way it looks.

The "normal" firearms licence does not allow one to own semi-auto .22s, and semi-auto shotguns and pump action shotguns in Aust. My licence includes primary production and a justification for a .22 and a shotgun. Centrefires are a whole lot more harder again to get a licence for, and basically to get a licence, one needs to be a professional pest shooter.


Wanabebwana
(.300 member)
18/02/15 03:51 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

My Rimfires:

1947 BRNO mod.1 / Leupold 2-7x28 RF
2012 CZ 452 Lux .22 WMR / Leupold 4x RF
1990s Kimber mod 82 Super America / Kimber (Leupold) 4x RF
1980s Anschutz 1422D / Leupold VX-I 2-7x33
1995 Winchester (Miroku) mod 52B / Leupold Vari-X II 3-9X40
1978 Winchester 9422M .22WMR


http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/Alain_Walther/media/IMG_0077_zpstxn3kn1o.jpg.html
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/Alain_Walther/media/IMG_0072_zpsy4ftb0ua.jpg.html


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
30/01/16 04:31 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

BTTT as I need to add to my post. Keep showing us yours as well.

Wayne59
(.400 member)
31/01/16 11:05 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I have two 22 rifles. One is an Ansuztch and the other is a CZ. The Ansuztch will out shoot the CZ with match ammo but the CZ will shoot every thing you put through it very well. The Ansuztch is very picky.

Iowa_303s
(.400 member)
31/01/16 11:55 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

I have two 22 rifles. One is an Ansuztch and the other is a CZ. The Ansuztch will out shoot the CZ with match ammo but the CZ will shoot every thing you put through it very well. The Ansuztch is very picky.



Pictures please, we need photos!


Wayne59
(.400 member)
31/01/16 01:42 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Sorry I havn't taken photos of these two guns and posting photos on this form are a little (lot) above my skill level.

DarylS
(.700 member)
01/02/16 05:59 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Here's my Triple Deuce - 8-32X40 M4200 scope.





Some load testing. Still shooting not too badly after all these years. Using Sierra 52gr. match bullets, Fed brass and 20.0gr. IMR4198, it will make 1/4", 5-shot groups, still.



Rino
(.300 member)
08/02/16 05:51 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I’m having a hard time to sleep tonight and was laying thinking about my carrier as a hunter.
That brought me back to my early days as a hunter. I can remember my 6th birthday like it was yesterday. My grandpa gave me a gift that changed a young boy forever.
Ladies and gentlemen… This is that gift. It is my first rifle. Just looking at this tiny 22 brings back memories, lots of memories. Like my first fox, my first capercaillie, my first hare and………..
And, my mother. She almost got heartattacks when I proudly and with a big grin brought my game into her kitchen….



NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
09/02/16 11:14 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Cool story Rino.

Rino, your story reminds me of this movie. The gift of a .22 rifle that is.



NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
09/02/16 11:26 PM
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A movie you would not see made today ... "Smiley gets a gun".

Smiley is the bush towns little deliquent ratbag. The local copper makes a deal with Smiley. He has to be a good boy and if he gets noticed for eight good deeds, marked by nicks with an axe on a tree, he will be given a .22 rifle. Every bad deed, and a nick is removed. Things do not go to plan of course and you need to watch the movie for its ending. Of course Smiley ends up being given his own .22 rifle by the local Police Seargeant. No PTA's, no waiting period, no registration, and to a little ratbag kid. Amazing. The world in 1958 before things "improved" and diversified ...




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_Gets_a_Gun


Bidgee
(.375 member)
10/02/16 03:20 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I have the .22 in wanted when I was a lad. A cockie we knew had a Brno and to me it was the sweetest rifle in the world.
12 years ago I. Came across a Brno TRG in wonderful condition and I swapped a Winchester 92 in 32.20 for it. I was stoked by that deal.
I use it on the block to cull rabbits, foxes and white cockatoos and one day I am going to back the bloody feral cat that is hanging around the area.



I do have to get a better scope for it one day! A 2-7x32 rim fire scope is what I have in mind.


458Win
(.333 member)
23/02/16 03:24 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Another Mauser 340 still in active use in Alaska













DarylS
(.700 member)
23/02/16 05:21 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I bought this rifle as a .22 LR with heavy match barrel. I changed the barrel to one of .172" groove diameter and re-chambered it to .17HMR.
It'sa 3/8" to 1/2" rifle at 100 meters off bags and routinely killed field rats to 282-284 yards every spring.
These, however were a closer bunch of 8 - no more than 160 to 175yards from my shooting spot.


I still have the .22 bl. of course.


Wanabebwana
(.300 member)
06/03/16 04:30 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Kimber 82 Super America



Anschutz 1422D



BRNO Mod.1



CZ 452 .22 WMR



Winchester 52B Sporter



rpeck
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19/04/16 09:01 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Sako M-78 fullwood






Rule303
(.416 member)
19/04/16 09:14 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Just the one, a little Browning take down






My father had an earlier model. All f us kids were taught to shoot with it. He used it the last time we went hunting. Complained he needed glasses and still head shot a rabbit at 70 long paces when all he could see were the ears.

Unfortunately the mongrel prime minister john scumbag howard made them illegal.


Igorrock
(.400 member)
20/04/16 06:31 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

That's nice SAKO ! Never seen before with full stock.

Brithunter
(.300 member)
20/04/16 10:09 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

I have the .22 in wanted when I was a lad. A cockie we knew had a Brno and to me it was the sweetest rifle in the world.
12 years ago I. Came across a Brno TRG in wonderful condition and I swapped a Winchester 92 in 32.20 for it. I was stoked by that deal.
I use it on the block to cull rabbits, foxes and white cockatoos and one day I am going to back the bloody feral cat that is hanging around the area.



I do have to get a better scope for it one day! A 2-7x32 rim fire scope is what I have in mind.




Not about a .22 but I have just heaved a Lister like that into the skip for the scrap man to take. Dad was going to do it up but that never happened and now we cannot find all the bits and after his passing we are having to clear out junk ready to move.


Brithunter
(.300 member)
20/04/16 10:40 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Here is my Brno Model No2:-







I also had the meopta 3 x scope for it:-



Not sure if I still have that scope of not now need to check.

And now a BSA No2A:-











The two holes are for a BSA bridge fitting aperture sight that was an optional extra. BSA also made a folding version of this for cyclists.


With BSA No8 Aperture rear sight.


Brithunter
(.300 member)
20/04/16 10:53 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

And now a BSA Supersport Five:-









I also have a P-H 18 NETA sporting aperture rear sight to fit this.


Louis
(.375 member)
08/07/19 05:17 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I am resurrecting this old post with aim to present my .22 rimfire rifles, from top to below:

• Anschutz Model 1386 single-shot, manufactured and purchased in 1971, now mounted with a Nickel 1-4x rifle scope; my first good quality rifle when I was a teenager.
• MAS 45 ‘closed season’ or ‘schönzeit’ rifle mounted with a Zeiss Diatal 4x32 on detachable scope mounts; this rifle was presented to me in 1993. I was never able to assess when it was manufactured as the Manufacture d’Armes de Saint Etienne’s (MAS) archives are not available; I assume that production occurred sometime between 1947 (all parts stamped MAS, no reference to Mauser) and the late 50’s or early 60’s when production stopped.
• Brno Model 1, manufactured in 1952, a later acquisition mounted with a Zeiss Diatal 4x32; no visible ‘tgf’ marking.





I use these rifles extensively for shooting training and pest control, mainly magpies and some crows in my area, as there are not much feral cats left roaming around!

Anschutz Model 1386







MAS 45












Brno Model 1








Louis


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
08/07/19 11:44 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thanks Louis. Nice rifles and post.

Guys, post more!


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
08/07/19 11:49 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

my older son want to have a STG 44 so after mayn years I have now a 22 in the house agian. must say this are very clever guys who made this the market for such a .22 semi auto was more than ripe. it looks and feels like a real one and is anything you wish for the money today. wonder how many they have sold of this rifle till now but thinking it goes like hot cakes.
my son carry a heckler&koch g 36 at work and was instantly familar with the Sturmgewehr 44 design.







Not taking away from anyone else's .22, but Lancaster's .22
STG 44 22 RF remains the most unusual and IMO desirable. Simply for the fun factor.


DarylS
(.700 member)
08/07/19 02:02 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Yes- they certainly are. I recently picked up an Anchutz M64 or M65 I think it is. Nice rifle, good figure of fairly straight black lines.
As well, in the Spring, I purchased a Model 811 BRNO Semi-auto made in 62. It's in REALLY nice shape. Paid an arm and leg for it, $450.00 but feel it's a great deal.


greenshoots
(.300 member)
08/07/19 03:27 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

yes i just picked up a Brno 581 semi auto it was a birthday present from the wife 1970 vintage £70 came with no mag but i had already bought a new mag a while ago

greenshoots


lancaster
(.470 member)
16/07/19 01:50 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:








Louis




the french walnut used for the mas is spectacular
most times rimfire rifles get only inexpensive beech to hold the price down and very few get walnut but this one have first class wood.


DarylS
(.700 member)
17/07/19 03:18 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Top - Ruger 10/22 w/3 10-rnd mags w/Simmons 6-18X40 ProHunter - Butler Creek stock and Steel .920" bl. and Volquartson Trigger parts and springs.

BRNO 1962 811SA with 2 9rnd mags and Simmons 6-18X40 ProHunter. Walnut Stock.

Anschutz M65 - very much like the later 1712. 4, 5shot mags. 4.5-18x40 Discovery AirGun scope. Walnut Stock.

Cooey M60 4X32 turreted Bushnel Sport-View scope. Dad purchased the rifle while stationed in Regina RCAF during WW11, in Research/Communications div. Walnut Stock.



Louis
(.375 member)
17/07/19 05:47 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Lancaster, yes indeed, nice piece of timber unusual on .22 as you mentioned it.

Daryl, thank you for sharing your own rifles; Brno and Anschütz are names often quoted in this post! Your Cooey M60 is a niece piece of Canadian rifle making history; its nice to still own one's dad rifle.


Waidmannsheil
(.400 member)
17/07/19 07:00 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Louis, I definitely like the MAS 22 a lot, very nice looking and nice timber. If you get a chance can you post some mot=re photos of that rifle alone.

Matt.


DarylS
(.700 member)
18/07/19 06:19 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

I also have another very early walnut stocked m60 Cooey which belongs to a now deceased friend's estate. This rifle and John's m34 Ithaca 12bore pump gun were to go to his son.

I holding them until the lad cleans up his act and with his mother's blessing. The boy doesn't have the requisite license anyway and it's highly unlikely he ever will. Drugs seem much more important to him at this time.
Due to his "record", his P.A.L.(gun license) will not likely ever happen.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
05/09/19 01:25 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Quote:

my older son want to have a STG 44 so after mayn years I have now a 22 in the house agian. must say this are very clever guys who made this the market for such a .22 semi auto was more than ripe. it looks and feels like a real one and is anything you wish for the money today. wonder how many they have sold of this rifle till now but thinking it goes like hot cakes.
my son carry a heckler&koch g 36 at work and was instantly familar with the Sturmgewehr 44 design.







Not taking away from anyone else's .22, but Lancaster's .22
STG 44 22 RF remains the most unusual and IMO desirable. Simply for the fun factor.




The unusual stuff and guns our members own.

I hope to be able to share with NE members one of our members guns, a new modern replica STG 44 in 8x33 mm Kurz. Semi-auto only. But what a great toy to play with.

Hopefully will get some images and also permission to share them. On a different "non .22 RF" topic thread.


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
02/04/24 01:33 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

One of the good threads on the forums. Every big bore hunter needs a .22 camp meat rifle. For fun, plinking and small game for the cookmpot.

eagle27
(.400 member)
03/04/24 11:39 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Thought I had posted my 22RF rig previously but seems I didn't.

A nice Gevarm E1 semi-auto carbine takedown. Fires from an open breech and not difficult to make fully auto, hence were banned in Canada and a few other countries.
Has a spring guide inside the action which can be changed around to opposite ends of the breech block spring in less than a minute for high velocity or subsonic ammo making operation with any subsonic ammo 100% reliable.
No firing pin or extractor, just a ridge across the face of the breech block giving two points of contact to the cartridge rim ensuring very positive ignition, misfires are unknown. Left hand lip of the magazine acts as an ejector as the fired case is blown out of the chamber.

Gevarm E1 Carbine


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
03/04/24 02:25 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

That might be the same brand the father of a High School friend had. A German brand. He was German, served on the Russian Front during WW2.

His semi auto was a 22 RF when using sub sonics wouldn't blow back the bolt enough to lock it in place. But did extract and eject the used case. The bolt would move forward, load the next cartridge from the magazine, fire it and so on. Till the whole magazine was fired.

He used to shoot feral pigs with it.

By the time I met him, he was anti hunting.

John Howard stole it off him and probably crushed it.


eagle27
(.400 member)
03/04/24 02:53 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

The Gevarm is French made by Gevelot. If using RF shorts or low energy subsonics that do not recoil the breech block back far enough to be caught and held by the interceptor sear they will cycle fully auto. A mag full of shorts is virtually just one bang and the mag is empty.



DarylS
(.700 member)
04/04/24 02:51 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

This is my nicest bolt action .22.
These are internet pictures of rifles I have currently.

I have a couple others, Ruger m10-22 and my Dad's 1940's, M60 Cooey.

This particular 1710 Anschutz is listed on gun broker at $2,670.00. Mine is identical, except for a scope.
https://www.covecreekoutfitters.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_7377.jpg

This is an internet picture of my nicest SA .22, a BRNO m581 made in 1960. Mine has a darker stock and thus, nicer looking(of course). I see this one I pictured is listed at $1,800.00.




DarylS
(.700 member)
04/04/24 02:55 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

A grade 9 classmate of mine back in high school named Warren, had a Gevarm .22 S/A. At that time, I had a Ruger 10/22. Had lots of fun with those for a few years, then we both bought CF rifles, his, a Savage M340 in .225 Winchester and me a Remington 660 in 6.5 RemMag. We both started reloading then - guess it was 1967 or so.

jgrabow
(.300 member)
04/04/24 06:49 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

The top rifle is a Winchester Model 490 in 22 LR (little brother to my Winchester Model 100 in 308 Win).
The bottom is a Geco Karabiner Model 1925 in 6mm Flobert which is a 22 extra short or a 22LR wannabe.

The Winchester is a recent purchase and I have shot only targets. The Geco has been used quit a bit.



mauserand9mm
(.400 member)
04/04/24 12:57 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Quote:

Thought I had posted my 22RF rig previously but seems I didn't.

A nice Gevarm E1 semi-auto carbine takedown. Fires from an open breech and not difficult to make fully auto, hence were banned in Canada and a few other countries.
Has a spring guide inside the action which can be changed around to opposite ends of the breech block spring in less than a minute for high velocity or subsonic ammo making operation with any subsonic ammo 100% reliable.
No firing pin or extractor, just a ridge across the face of the breech block giving two points of contact to the cartridge rim ensuring very positive ignition, misfires are unknown. Left hand lip of the magazine acts as an ejector as the fired case is blown out of the chamber.

Gevarm E1 Carbine





I don't know if they are still around but Rubi (made in some South American country, can't recall where) used to make a copy of one of the Gevarm versions that was also fired from an open breech and could be converted to full auto easily, apparently, so I'm told.


eagle27
(.400 member)
04/04/24 02:41 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

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I don't know if they are still around but Rubi (made in some South American country, can't recall where) used to make a copy of one of the Gevarm versions that was also fired from an open breech and could be converted to full auto easily, apparently, so I'm told.




The Rubi Extra 22RF rifles were made in Argentina and were a poor copy of the Gevarm. They often failed to eject the empty cases leading to regular jams.

Voere made a semi auto 22RF, Model 0014, that fired from an open bolt too but didn't seem very common or may have been banned in some countries like the Gevarm was.


mauserand9mm
(.400 member)
05/04/24 09:01 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

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I don't know if they are still around but Rubi (made in some South American country, can't recall where) used to make a copy of one of the Gevarm versions that was also fired from an open breech and could be converted to full auto easily, apparently, so I'm told.




The Rubi Extra 22RF rifles were made in Argentina and were a poor copy of the Gevarm. They often failed to eject the empty cases leading to regular jams.

Voere made a semi auto 22RF, Model 0014, that fired from an open bolt too but didn't seem very common or may have been banned in some countries like the Gevarm was.




Yes, Argentina, that's right.

They didn't have an extractor, but the one I saw ran good - the ejector pelted the cases out high and right, and effing hot. An aftermarket high-capacity magazine did have issues delivering the ammo quickly into the breech when in naughty mode but didn't jam up as such. Did I mention how hot the ejected cases were?


lancaster
(.470 member)
14/04/24 01:38 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

a friend was looking for a .22 for his daughter who gets a licence next time. when an old rimfire rifle was offered to me for 30 euro I though about him and make he got it. never realy looking what it was and in the end it was a Brno Mod. 2.
I must say its a damned fine rifle and just the right thing for anyone loving old mauser hunting rifles. no doubt, when they making this rifle today 1000 euro will be not enough. if I read the proof mark the right way it was made in 1957.






big surprise was on the rifle is a pre war Zeiss Zielvier that will sold for 200 euro + any day.
useless in this mount because there is no adjustment it will find a new home.
















clean the rust with petroleum and fine steel wool, give the stock linseed oil one time -















and I am realy jealous about this good deal!

If I had to suggest you a rimfire rifle look for a Brno Mod. 2


m239
(.275 member)
14/04/24 06:24 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

Something a bit different.

My SMLE No 5 Jungle Carbine converted to 22LR by Tom at T-Bone.



NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
14/04/24 12:24 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

L, very nice CZ no. 2 and for E30. Wow, what a bargain!

NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
14/04/24 12:29 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

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Something a bit different.

My SMLE No 5 Jungle Carbine converted to 22LR by Tom at T-Bone.






A modern conversion? Some originals were training rifles.


lancaster
(.470 member)
14/04/24 03:30 PM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

its a cool looking rifle, single shot?

DarylS
(.700 member)
15/04/24 02:53 AM
Re: .22 rifles I have known - Show us yours!

The Enfield Mark 4's converted to .22 LR we had in cadets were single shot.


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