| casper50 |
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| 10/03/19 10:29 PM |
Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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I'm looking at a rifle that is advertised as a .450 #2. The rifle is pre smokeless. Is this the same cartridge as the .450 3 1/4"?
| bouldersmith |
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| 10/03/19 11:02 PM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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Sounds more like the .450 musket #2, different than .450 3&1/4".
| casper50 |
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| 10/03/19 11:16 PM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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Darn I was sure hoping not. This rifle is too nice and to good to be a #2 musket. I've had one and it's pretty anemic.
| Huvius |
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| 11/03/19 04:17 AM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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Darn I was sure hoping not. This rifle is too nice and to good to be a #2 musket. I've had one and it's pretty anemic.
I wouldn't say that.
There were three main original loadings.
400gr bullet, 65grs powder
450gr bullet, 70grs powder
and a load for a 480gr bullet and 76grs of powder.
I don't see any of these as particularly anemic...
| 3DogMike |
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| 11/03/19 04:40 AM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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Yep, the performance equivalent of the black powder loaded .45-70 that was later on loaded with “Nitro for Black”.
Link:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/500-450-2-musket-t5053.html
| DarylS |
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| 11/03/19 06:05 AM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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500gr. at 1,500fps is pretty good in a nitro for black load.
ie: 52gr. IMR3031.
Interesting.
That load will pen. end to end & exit his chest on a big BC Bull moose. My bro has done that with his .45 3 1/4 Sharps. same ballistics using a 500gr. Hornady with BP load of 120gr. M0oose braced his front feet and refused to take a step. Dropped in his tracks after about 10 seconds. The impact was quite audible - WHUCK!
| lancaster |
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| 11/03/19 06:06 AM |
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Re: Question about the .450 #2 BPE
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iirc, the no. 2 musket was another cartridge for the real cape guns around the century for hunters in south africa so it must have been enough for plains game