| Homer |
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| 30/01/18 08:03 AM |
James Purdey and Sons
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G'Day Fella's,
FYI. https://www.purdey.com/guns-rifles/new-bolt-action-rifle
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!
Doh!
Homer
| DarylS |
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| 30/01/18 01:26 PM |
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oh yes- that is nice.
https://www.purdey.com/new-guns/purdey-gun-8
check out this damascus O/U
https://www.purdey.com/guns-rifles/damascus-guns
| Waidmannsheil |
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| 06/02/18 07:16 PM |
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Certainly very clever, strange though that someone like Purdey would be interested in 600 yard rifles. Still very nicely made. They must be using actions from Mayfair engineering as they say that the action is British made. It is also probably the first Purdey bolt action rifle to be sold without iron sights.
Waidmannsheil.
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| 07/02/18 07:27 AM |
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Homer you certainly know how to pick 'em!
Certainly pieces of art....especially the Damascus O/U!
| lancaster |
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| 07/02/18 02:24 PM |
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It is also probably the first Purdey bolt action rifle to be sold without iron sights.
Waidmannsheil.
I am sorry to say this but without iron sights its naked and I see no naked beauty
| Waidmannsheil |
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| 07/02/18 07:35 PM |
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Yes I must agree, I find it strange that Purdey who is one of the most reserved and conservative of all the British gun makers would make a rifle without iron sights. Sure the rifle is marketed at long range but it will still work at close range so why not fit iron sights. At 22000 pounds starting price I would want iron sights even if I never intended to use them. To me they finish a rifle perfectly. Also strange that Purdey would be trying to break into a market which is already dominated by hundreds of companies in the US and the rest of world who specialise in long range shooting, especially considering that overall sales of Purdey bolt action rifles would be quite low, and the target audience for a Purdey rifle are normally wealthy people who like classic rifles. Still, they must have done their homework so maybe I am wrong. Hopefully it works for them.
Waidmannsheil.
| pjaln |
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| 08/02/18 01:35 PM |
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Jeez whats going on there ...paul
| Ripp |
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| 09/02/18 01:04 AM |
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Yes I must agree, I find it strange that Purdey who is one of the most reserved and conservative of all the British gun makers would make a rifle without iron sights. Sure the rifle is marketed at long range but it will still work at close range so why not fit iron sights. At 22000 pounds starting price I would want iron sights even if I never intended to use them. To me they finish a rifle perfectly. Also strange that Purdey would be trying to break into a market which is already dominated by hundreds of companies in the US and the rest of world who specialise in long range shooting, especially considering that overall sales of Purdey bolt action rifles would be quite low, and the target audience for a Purdey rifle are normally wealthy people who like classic rifles. Still, they must have done their homework so maybe I am wrong. Hopefully it works for them.
Waidmannsheil.
Absolutely beautiful rifle but agree with the above...At that price point, dont see them selling a lot of them..especially when you can spend 1/5th of that with several manufacturers and get similar or better accuracy..
Perhaps its like some other things in life, not that you need one, but because you can..
Ripp
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| 09/02/18 04:43 AM |
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G'Day Fella's,
FYI. https://www.purdey.com/guns-rifles/new-bolt-action-rifle
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!
Doh!
Homer
I'm not impressed at all, and think the rifle lacks classic British M98 styling. Plain jane chunky stock shape. And for GBP25,000 you have to be kidding!
Probably make two or three of these a year, probably for off the the shelf sales. IMO.
I think Purdey can do a lot better. And at that price, a custom made rifle to the customers specifications.
BTW could get probably 2 1/2 Dorleac rifles for that price. Lovely classic rifles.
| ismith |
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| 09/02/18 06:00 AM |
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Rifle looks wrong. For that price you could buy a magnum Hoffman Arms co. rifle or two.
| Claydog |
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| 09/02/18 09:50 AM |
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When you look at some of the other photos in their brochure there looks to be some pretty impressive work on the bedding block inlay and the rifle looks a bit more impressive. Certainly would be improved by some nice express sights. In my opinion of course. Seems as if the are chasing a wider market than just the traditionalists. Nice to get one in 308.
| DarylS |
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| 09/02/18 10:10 AM |
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I quickly passed the bolt gun over for the shotgun. I would most assuredly prefer Joel to build me one - over that rifle.
It's nicely made for sure, but does not ring my chimes - and certainly not at that price.
I agree lancaster - it should have express sights.
| Homer |
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| 09/02/18 05:19 PM |
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G'Day Fella's,
I agree, open and express sights would improve the looks no end.
But this is the 21st Century, so most new rifles, will have a very reliable optical sight fitted.
And I'm sure that if you asked Mr Purdey about a 1/4 rib, Express Sights and a Banded front sight base with Day and Night sights, they would probably be available..... for another 1,000.00 Pounds ish!
Avagreatweekendeh!
Homer
| Claydog |
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| 09/02/18 06:01 PM |
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The more I look at it the better it looks. I agree Homer you would surely be able to get rib and sights on it. Especially as it is available in any caliber you want.
| Ahmed577 |
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| 09/02/18 10:22 PM |
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Own holland boss rigby westley richards Jeffrey bolt rifles and believe after seeing and handling a PURDEY Best Bolt Rifle that they stand well amongst all British bolts. Maybe one day. What Calibre not sure. Am sure iron sights peep sight and q-d scope.
| tinker |
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| 10/02/18 02:52 AM |
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I have nothing against the chassis rifle.
It looks like an interesting study on doing a rigid and condition-resistant stock in classic style.
It's a Purdey after all, and each rifle can be styled and appointed as the rifleman chooses.
The name of the game with the chassis system rifles is consistent first round hits at distance. Not exactly the same job as fast snap shots over express sights.
More power to them.
Cheers
Tinker
| 500Boswell |
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| 10/02/18 06:55 AM |
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Bit ordinary looking for 25,000 Pounds + VAT ummm no
| 500Boswell |
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| 10/02/18 06:58 AM |
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Looks like some of the ''Customs'' you see on ''Used Guns '' for 600 Bucks, built on a Ex Military Mauser 98
| Waidmannsheil |
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| 10/02/18 11:08 AM |
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Looks like some of the ''Customs'' you see on ''Used Guns '' for 600 Bucks, built on a Ex Military Mauser 98
I actually have to agree with that statement. The stock looks strange IMO. It really does not look like a Purdey. I have never seen a real Purdey rifle in the flesh but I have seen several in pictures as well as in catalogues and they are beautiful rifles in every sense. Very classy and stylish. But this long range gun is a bit of a mystery, an engraved London Best with no open sights which sort of looks very naked especially with that long barrel. It is as if Purdey have seen the success that Rigby are having with the Highland Stalker and have tried to get in on a popular segment of rifle sales, long range shooting, albeit at a much higher price.
Strangely their website has two sections for bolt-action rifles, one for the "New Bolt-Action" and the other for just "Bolt-Action" but both show the same gun but with different pictures. I would be surprised if they still didn't make an original style gun with open sights although at a higher price again.
Waidmannsheil.
| adrian500ne |
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| 17/02/18 10:55 AM |
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The classic bolt action Purdey, which is stocked tightly and has a cross bolt and mostly came with an ebony tip, will not be made anymore. I expect the page for the classic rifle to disappear when they next update the site.
This rifle is an abomination in my opinion. They embed a chassis into the stock, then mount a body with a "floating barrel" on it. Floating barrel is a cheap way to make a rifle shoot well, and that's why you see it on $300 Walmart rifles. It's true that floating barrels improve accuracy, but this is a classic hunting rifle, not a bench rest competition rifle. A classic rifle stocked without gaps is plenty accurate for the purpose. WR, H&W, Theo Jung, Prechtl, and H&H don't make guns with floating barrels, yet theirs shoot quite well.
I've seen this new Purdey in real life, and the gaps between the barrel and the stock made me cringe. Nothing but pure cheapness, and you'll have to figure out how you'll clean the area beneath the barrel since the gaps will allow dust and solid containments to get inside the stock. The price of this new rifle is nearly half the price of their outgoing classic rifle, machines are highly involved in the making with much less handwork, and the specifications scream of cheapness; standard calibres come without iron sights, with a lesser grade stock, a low-cost satin stock finish, and you'll have to pay an extra 3000 GBP extra to get the proper Purdey stock finish with closed bores. The larger calibres will have iron sights, and the high grade wood and stock finish. They also threaded the muzzle for a silencer, but not sure if that will make it to the larger calibres as well. To top it up these rifles come in an "ABS" case. I can imagine the founders of the company turning in their graves upon hearing that some Purdeys now come in plastic cases just like a Benelli or a basic Beretta.
Purdey has been cheapening the brand for years now, and this new rifle joins the half Italian boxlock Purdey Sporter and an upcoming second boxlock O/U model as nails in the coffin. All the talk about accuracy of this new rifle is nonsensical because no one buys a Purdey for accuracy, and if accuracy is the goal then hundreds of other rifles will do a similar or better job from the basic $250 Savage to the very nice $2500 Steyr Mannlicher Classic or the Sauer 404.
| Waidmannsheil |
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| 17/02/18 02:00 PM |
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Yes, I have to agree completely. I for the life of me can not work out what Purdey are trying to achieve by having this sort of rifle in their line-up and then making it the only type of bolt rifle that they are going to sell. The type of shooter interested in long to very long range shooting is not going to pay 20000 pounds to have an accurate rifle when he could have spent a fraction of the cost and get the same result with any one of the hundreds of gunmakers who specialise in these sort of rifles. Conversely the type of person who can afford a Purdey bolt rifle would want a classic rifle with all the trimmings, with superb fit and finish and a beautiful case that goes with it, not a piece of plastic shit. (This by the way was also one of the things that turned me of the Rigby Stalker, which was the very basic plastic case with egg crate foam and no compartments, something which you do get with a Sauer rifle for a third of the price). For a company which has always prided itself on producing guns of the highest quality and with such an interesting history it seems strange to me to be pandering to a market filled to the brim with other gunmakers already. People don't buy a Purdey bolt gun to shoot at 800 yards, they buy them to shoot for sure, and hunt with but also to just sit in a niece chair in their gun or trophy room with a fine single malt and just handle the gun, look at it, raise it to the shoulder, cycle the action, open the floor plate, line up the open sights and look at it some more all while dreaming of hunts they have had or would like to have. Pretty hard to do with that particular rifle I would think. At least the Rigby Stalker looks like a beautiful rifle and while their are a couple of things that turned me off buying one, it is still a beautiful rifle.
Here is a short video of how a real Purdey is made and why you would choose one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSKBPBTnmIM
Waidmannsheil.
| Huvius |
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| 17/02/18 02:11 PM |
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I really don’t know why Purdey would decide to go this way with their new rifle.
I agree that the rifle looks rather pedestrian other than the wood and really, that’s just a $1K upgrade to any custom build.
It was only a matter of time before the gents at Purdey explored what they could do with their CNC machines.
BTW, I just bought a Purdey rifle, albeit one that is some 138 years old...
| Homer |
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| 17/02/18 06:28 PM |
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G'Day Fella's,
"BTW, I just bought a Purdey rifle, albeit one that is some 138 years old..."
Well Huvius, please stop keeping us in suspense, what are the details of the New Investment and any images would also be appreciated..... Please.
Regards
Homer
| Huvius |
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| 18/02/18 01:14 AM |
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posted over here:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post312550
| Homer |
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| 18/02/18 10:27 AM |
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Thanks Huvius and Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!
Regards
Homer