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02/11/15 04:03 AM

DORLEAC .404 Jeffery Rimless rifle on an Original Mauser mag

Built for a very patient NE Forum member, a classic .404 Jeffery Rimless constructed on an Original Mauser n°19 magnum action of the late thirties.
That rifle has been built as a working one, not for show.
Emphasizing the strength to the figure, we have used a very dense French walnut blank from Tessier (1976) with good flowing grain.
A ZEISS "Victory" HT 1.1–4x24 is claw mounted with the rear base embedded in the square bridge while the front base is silver soldered on the barrel rear portion.
Notice also that we had to make a new trigger using a Recknagel base and that after the photos were shot the sight leaves have been regulated and now lie flush.
We welcome you comments.

Best to all.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Rockdoc

(.400 member)

02/11/15 09:31 AM

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Joel, as always a beautiful rifle.

Lovely and svelte, no excess wood. What is the weight?

Why did you replace the original trigger? I have a magnum mauser actioned rifle (375H&H) built 1913 with a modified original trigger that is fine. Always curious with trigger mods.

I would love to add that to my gun safe!

DarylS

(.700 member)

02/11/15 11:37 AM

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Now THAT is a nicely filled and finished stock. A bit of pumice or rotten stone is you like a more subdued, softer finish.

Mike_Bailey

(.400 member)

02/11/15 07:48 PM

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Lovely......as usual !

Rigby350

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02/11/15 09:30 PM

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Absolutely stunning rifle, no questions one very awesome 404.

As always, great work from Joel and the D&D team, true craftsman in every respect.

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

02/11/15 09:35 PM

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I'm certain that rifle will end in very good hands...!

NitroX

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03/11/15 12:16 AM

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Stunning rifle.

Now I want to work out who "HK" is on these forums?

Can I ask why the 'sharp' line of wood after the bolt release?

I like the mounts too.

One day I would like to pay you a visit, Joel, and get a rifle of my own made by you.

Always beautitul pieces of a gunmakers art.

PS I was recently feeling like I was in a Dorleac withdrawal, having not seen one on the forums for a while.

mckinney

(.400 member)

03/11/15 02:12 AM

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Stunning rifle. I don't think anyone could improve on the lines and that includes all the pre-war makers from Britain, Germany and the US as well as Hartmann and Weiss. Just a beautiful timeless look in my opinion.

Igorrock

(.400 member)

03/11/15 06:58 AM

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Can I ask why the 'sharp' line of wood after the bolt release?

Good question, this same detail takes my eyes too...

Waidmannsheil

(.400 member)

03/11/15 09:42 AM

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Beautiful work. It would be great to see some photos when it has been blued.

Waidmannsheil.

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

03/11/15 11:42 PM

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NitroX, Igorrock,
About the sharp line after the bolt stop, on the photo the shadow makes it looking more severe than when you get the rifle in hands. It’s a D&D gitzmo to do the transition between the magazine box belly and the grip.
As you have noticed we don’t like to let too much wood, only what it’s required.
Rockdoc,
We prefer to use Recknagel all steel adjustable trigger system as a basis we modify to obtain a crisp and perfect let-off. While they offer a magnum (elongated) trigger we use a standard assy with a hand made trigger that fit at the rear of the trigger guard.
Under recoil that kind of arrangement prevents the finger to stumble over the magazine release.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Rockdoc

(.400 member)

04/11/15 09:09 AM

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Joel, thank you for the explanation. It is a very nice looking trigger, and properly aft.

What safety is that? It looks nice and retains the shape of the bolt shroud, which I like.

Cheers, Chris

ozhunter

(.400 member)

04/11/15 09:19 AM

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A most beautiful rifle for a most deserving owner.
Rest assured it is going to a good home

Wanabebwana

(.300 member)

08/11/15 12:10 PM

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M. Dorleac, Congratulations once more on another superlative creation. I know that you understand what striving for perfection is. We can never achieve it, and very few have the vision and skill to approach it. You are among that elite when it comes to the marriage of wood and metal and capturing the essence of the quintessential English Big Game Rifle. Thank you for sharing this with us.

mehulkamdar

(.416 member)

10/11/15 03:31 PM

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A simply gorgeous rifle! And, the owner's patience has been rewarded much as if he would have waited for a fine wine to mature! Congratulations to friend and gun artist, Joel, and to the rifle's owner for his fine taste!

Hope to see pictures and accounts of success with it in the field, in the future!

Buchsemann

(.333 member)

28/11/15 02:11 PM

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Wonderful piece of craftsmanship.

Mark

65West

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30/11/15 02:51 AM

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Absolutely gorgeous! Form and function. Quite streamlined and sexy too.

Tony

DORLEAC

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27/04/16 07:37 PM

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I have hastily taken some bad photos from the .404 coming back from a test session at the range.
Sorry it has not been yet cleaned and sports oily traces on the stock and buttplate…!
We will redo the nitre blue on the extractor blade and fully control all details before shipping it to its new owner.

Regards to all.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Waidmannsheil

(.400 member)

27/04/16 10:09 PM

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Beautiful work again Joel, thanks for posting.

Waidmannsheil.

DarylS

(.700 member)

28/04/16 01:07 AM

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Stunning!

ozhunter

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28/04/16 10:05 AM

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Can't wait to see it in use!

Rigby350

(.300 member)

28/04/16 06:28 PM

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Thank you Joel for creating one very amazing rifle, it's stunning in every respect.

Rule303

(.416 member)

28/04/16 08:08 PM

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Simply stunning. I trust the owner will put the rifle to good use.

458Win

(.333 member)

29/04/16 03:38 AM

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That rifle has been built as a working one, not for show.

Absolutely stunning, as we have all come to expect, and no doubt it works as well as it looks but, unless you wear a Savile Row suit to work, I don't think most of us would consider it a working gun.

Not that I wouldn't be willing to give it a try

NitroX

(.700 member)

30/04/16 02:07 AM

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Fantastic. One day I hope to have you make a masterpiece for me.

DORLEAC

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30/04/16 04:35 AM

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...unless you wear a Savile Row suit to work, I don't think most of us would consider it a working gun.

It’s a working rifle…as far as my Crockett & Jones shoes are made for walking !
In fact the rifle has benefited from some extras in acknowledgement for our customer patience and confidence.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Carpetsahib

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30/04/16 07:57 AM

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...unless you wear a Savile Row suit to work, I don't think most of us would consider it a working gun.

Ha! You probably made it so fancy he won't take it out and get it dirty!

458Win

(.333 member)

02/05/16 04:44 AM

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Do Crockett and Jones make snow pacs ?

Or hip boots ?

I admit it is a stunningly beautiful rifle and one I would certainly want to hunt with but to describe it as a "working rifle" is like Hillary describing herself as one of the working class.

ozhunter

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02/05/16 09:35 AM

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...unless you wear a Savile Row suit to work, I don't think most of us would consider it a working gun.

Ha! You probably made it so fancy he won't take it out and get it dirty!

It will be getting used but the owner will treat it as a precision tool and not like a hammer.

DarylS

(.700 member)

02/05/16 10:45 AM

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"working rifle" is like Hillary describing herself as one of the working class.

IN CONCECPT PERHAPS - NOT FOR THE LOOKS FOR SURE!
LOL

458Win

(.333 member)

02/05/16 02:02 PM

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I would take both Dorleac's 404 and Hillary out bear hunting in Alaska

NitroX

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03/05/16 07:29 AM

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I admit it is a stunningly beautiful rifle and one I would certainly want to hunt with but to describe it as a "working rifle" is like Hillary describing herself as one of the working class.

She may never worked a day of her life, but she looks and sounds like a coarse and especially coarsely voiced inbred mountain sister-wife of her father/husband ... please don't bring that horrible image into this thread!!!

458Win

(.333 member)

03/05/16 02:24 PM

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I admit it is a stunningly beautiful rifle and one I would certainly want to hunt with but to describe it as a "working rifle" is like Hillary describing herself as one of the working class.

She may never worked a day of her life, but she looks and sounds like a coarse and especially coarsely voiced inbred mountain sister-wife of her father/husband ... please don't bring that horrible image into this thread!!!

Sorry, I guess you are correct, DORLEAC rifles do have class !

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

03/05/16 07:36 PM

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Perhaps do you think we hunt in a garden…
Have a look at the following threads:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....0&fpart=all
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....1&fpart=all

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Waidmannsheil

(.400 member)

03/05/16 09:03 PM

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Beautiful rifles in the second thread, they look like they are made for the mountains. Not entirely convinced with the one in the first thread though.

Waidmannsheil.

458Win

(.333 member)

04/05/16 04:48 AM

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I am well aware of the rugged mountainous terrain in Europe and meant no disrespect toward your rifles. They are truly exquisite. I was only questioning your use of the term "working rifle" when describing the 404. I am sure it works but would be surprised to see it "working" for a living . But guess I shouldn't be as I have a friend who guided here in Alaska and carried a Holland & Holland Royal 500 Nitro for many years -- it was a total wreck when he eventually sold it --- and I have even been known to use some of my custom rifles in the garden where I "work"

It is nice to see rifles like that actually being used for the purpose they were intended !

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

04/05/16 06:52 AM

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Knowing the owner I'm sure that he will put the rifle to good use.
When I speak about "working rifle" that means that, even if it displays some nice finishing touches, that rifle has been built to be used under any condition.
Wood is an old blank of French walnut from Tessier (from the late 80) and the rifle has been made to work, not for show...as are all our rifles.
In one of the threads about our mountain hunting passion you can see a fine .270W that hunts where many plastic ones will never go. The owner loves it but wants to use and hunt with...it's also a "working rifle".
That said, I dream to hunt in your "garden" !

Best.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

MarkR

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09/09/16 07:38 PM

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Can't wait to see it in use!

I too Adam, would like to see the owner with his new rifle in use

Cheers,
Mark.

93x64mm

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10/09/16 07:02 AM

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A simply gorgeous rifle! And, the owner's patience has been rewarded much as if he would have waited for a fine wine to mature! Congratulations to friend and gun artist, Joel, and to the rifle's owner for his fine taste!

Hope to see pictures and accounts of success with it in the field, in the future!

Certainly a lovely piece of kit! And an original magnum action as well, rather lucky to pick one of those up - will be a treasured piece to pass down to children & grandkids; & it will still be just as good then.

Brilliant work as always!
cheers
93x64mm

gryphon

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10/09/16 08:01 AM

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There are many many rifles shown off online in various places including here that dont ever get to see the nitty gritty side of what they were made for.

A bit like buying a classic car and reserving it for the garage and used a couple of times a year.

The rifle in this thread is a great thing of beauty and workmanship,if the owner wants it barked up or kept pristine thats for him to decide.

I think most of us (most, not all) are a tad green with envy!

Now if I had the dosh I would have it in the bush in a flash lol!

FrankFarmer

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10/09/16 09:53 AM

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Absolutely fabulous! Thank you for posting and being so comfortable with questions.

Claydog

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10/09/16 11:32 AM

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Looks like a extremely functional working rifle to me. Would be my pleasure to carry that 404 around and get it banged up. There is nothing sadder than seeing any rifle in completely pristine condition and not being used. Every rifle should be a working rifle.

Rigby350

(.300 member)

20/10/16 11:35 PM

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It finaly arrived and it's everything I expected and wanted in a dangerous game rifle, The D&D team have excelled in every way possible, you could not ask for finer rifle.

I have been busy working up loads for the 404 as I am heading off to Africa early November (it's going to be hot, but will take any opportunity to hunt there) for a buffalo & Eland hunt, which the 404 will accompany me.

Thus far no matter what it digest, it shoots extremely well, these are my hand loads, very happy

I want to thank Joel and the D&D team for building me an amazing rifle, one that will accompany me on many trips.

Now to start planning the next rifle, thinking 300 H&H.

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

21/10/16 06:01 AM

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Sir,

It was a pleasure to work for a gentleman like you.
I hope that our rifle will serve you in the best manner and I take that opportunity to thank our team, my son Jean-Philippe who worked on the action and the sighting at the range, Pierre who do most of the finish, Stefan who cut the French walnut bed were lies that barrelled Original Magnum Mauser action, Hubert our engraver...and your servant who spend many hours harassing the team before being just satisfied and relaxed in making the mounts and filing the sights and minute details...!

Kind regards from France.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Rockdoc

(.400 member)

21/10/16 06:40 AM

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Congratulations Rigby 350.

I look forward to some photos in the field.

Good hunting!

93x64mm

(.416 member)

21/10/16 07:10 AM

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Congratulations Rigby 350.

I look forward to some photos in the field.

Good hunting!

Yep -all of us are envious that you're taking it to Africa
!.
Looks like your load of 85gn of AR2208 mirrors mine as well. I put those over a chrono & got 2320fps average; still had plenty left to go if needed but it shot to my sights & so I left it there.
Looks like she's sighted for longer range or is that just the initial trial run?
93x64

Homer

(.416 member)

21/10/16 08:26 AM

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G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Doh!
Homer

Rigby350

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21/10/16 02:35 PM

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Congratulations Rigby 350.

I look forward to some photos in the field.

Good hunting!

Yep -all of us are envious that you're taking it to Africa
!.
Looks like your load of 85gn of AR2208 mirrors mine as well. I put those over a chrono & got 2320fps average; still had plenty left to go if needed but it shot to my sights & so I left it there.
Looks like she's sighted for longer range or is that just the initial trial run?
93x64

I have a few more sessions at the range before I go, I am setting the scope to be dead on at 150, giving me a 2.5" variance along that distance. As I will be chasing Eland it might be a further than anticipated shot.

The sights themselves are dead on at 50, which depending on circumstances I would like to take my buffalo close in without the scope.

Two more sessions at the range and everything will be in order, thank you again for the help with the loads they worked superbly well.

ozhunter

(.400 member)

23/10/16 07:10 AM

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Now to start planning the next rifle, thinking 300 H&H.

Shame that right group was not a classic four shot group. You would have been even more pleased I'm guessing.
As for next project. Best start on that 7x57 soon as I plan on chasing Stag at "the Hossack" in late March 2018.

Rigby350

(.300 member)

23/10/16 05:50 PM

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Now to start planning the next rifle, thinking 300 H&H.

Shame that right group was not a classic four shot group. You would have been even more pleased I'm guessing.
As for next project. Best start on that 7x57 soon as I plan on chasing Stag at "the Hossack" in late March 2018.

It should have been a four shot group, but they were my last three, next time.

I'm coming with you on the red stag hunt, that's for certain.

MarkR

(.333 member)

21/11/16 06:26 PM

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Pretty sure his next rifle in 300H&H will do the job at the Hossack

Cheers,
Mark.

Rigby350

(.300 member)

27/11/16 05:20 PM

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Just back from Zimbabwe, hunted Chewore South.

The D&D 404J functioned flawlessy in every respect and I very much enjoyed using it. More importantly I had every confidence in the rifle, it performed as a Safari Rifle should.

It has a few additional marks on it and a little blueing missing from carrying it in the thick Jess, but that just adds to the character of a great Rifle.

Thank you again D&D team, you have made an exceptional Safari Rifle.

A fanatastic buffalo taken with the 404J

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An awesome bushbuck

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A nice Warthog

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A very nice Waterbuck

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Bumped into these guys every second day.

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The D&D 404J in its natural surrounds.

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A great few weeks hunting with a great rifle, memories of a lifetime.

lonewulf

(.300 member)

27/11/16 05:44 PM

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In it's element doing what it does best. Fantastic. Thanks for the photos.

ozhunter

(.400 member)

27/11/16 05:46 PM

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Again, congrats brother!
I finally got to check the Dorleac out yesterday. Joel , thumbs up!

DORLEAC

(.333 member)

27/11/16 07:57 PM

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Glad to see our rifle at work !
One word only: Thank you.

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

93x64mm

(.416 member)

28/11/16 07:08 AM

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Memories of a lifetime alright!
Congrats
93x64mm

DarylS

(.700 member)

28/11/16 11:44 AM

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Well done, 93x64 - well done indeed!

ozhunter

(.400 member)

24/12/16 10:56 PM

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I would take both Dorleac's 404 and Hillary out bear hunting in Alaska

Whilst I think you may be waiting some time for Hillary to join you on a bear hunt, I don't think it would be hard to get the owner to join you on a bear hunt with his 404

szihn

(.400 member)

25/12/16 06:20 AM

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I'd love to take Hillary for a nature hike. We have lots of Grizzlies around where I hunt, and someone has to carry that fresh whole salmon. She'd be perfect for the job.

I might be forced to protect her.
Dorleac, do you have any old Daisy BB guns (with broken springs) I might buy for that job?

I'd assume the broken springs would bring the price down to a point that the financial investment would match the importance of the mission.

Homer

(.416 member)

25/12/16 09:36 AM

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G'Day Fella's,

Szihn, don't be concerned with the cost.
I'm sure we could raise enough funds on NE, to pay for the broken spring Daisy BB.

Further to this, I firmly believe Karma will eventually catch up with Hitlerty......

Merry Christmas you lot
Homer

DarylS

(.700 member)

25/12/16 01:22 PM