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need another thread for this in the Stodertal/Austria http://stodertalfreunde.blogspot.de/2013/01/von-der-jagd-im-stodertal.html Aufbruch zur Jagd des Herzogs von Württemberg am 10.10.1886 Jäger und Treiber Herzog Philipp von Württemberg - links im Bild - mit Jagdgästen 4.10.1903 Die Strecke. Rechts im Bild Herzog Philipp von Württemberg am 10.10.1886 König Wilhelm II von Württemberg am 1.10.1891 auf der Salmeralm von 1891 bis 1918 war er der letzte König von Württember Friedrich-Wend und Maria, Fürst und Fürstin zu Eulenburg-Hertefeld, Graf von Sandels ca. 1955 Jagdgesellschaft ca.1930 scotland post war http://pages.rapha.cc/stories/tweed-the-original-performance-fabric |
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Thanks for Sharing Lancaster. Your posts is always of interest.. |
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Thanks lancaster!! 2 scoped rifles and lots of binocs in the Jagdgesellschaft ca.1930 bild. Very interesting. |
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Circa 1930, in our beloved Pyrenean Mountains, in Val d’Aran. One isard (Rupicapra Pyreneica), one bear and one wild boar. DORLEAC www.dorleac-dorleac.com |
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great pic Dorlac, a mix you dont see every day in the great war iirc, in france Waldi(left side) goes to war strange trench pic, maybe he was in war with the ducks next lake france 1918 in Białowieża http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82owie%C5%BCa_National_Park bison and wild boar |
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Very interesting, guys! Dorleac, the guns in the pic there indicates close range shooting regardless of the game. Very interesting. lanc; A Euro bison, wow. Must be from eastern Poland? |
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Quote: of course, its in the Bialowiezer Heide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82owie%C5%BCa_National_Park Noah's Ark for the european bison and now something completly different Britain A shooting party and gun-dogs with their haul at the Glen Estate in the Scottish Borders in 1907. http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/index.php?optio...amp;imageId=495 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUuui-CSx0U/T4...+party_mhsp.jpg . . . between 1930 and 1938 on a german manor of the famous von Kleist Family, Kieckow in the lost east http://www.v-kleist.com/Kieckow/kieckow_jagd.htm |
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Another great addition. Thanks lanc! I especially like the little bear pic. I always wonder what happened to the trophies... |
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good question had the hunter the time(in war) to handle the skin? I see a wolf tropie with head in the 1990s an older woman had have from her father who was a forester and shoot it in russia in WW 2. maybe the next generation trash this old stuff. |
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A little OT but sometimes is quite difficult to find when foto has taken; is it from 1960´s or 2010´s as my friend asked when he send me this foto: |
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Sorry igorrock, but the goatie and the pants and ammo pouches {they didn't surplus them out then I don't think... {?}} give it away... |
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Quote: Sorry igorrock, but the goatie and the pants and ammo pouches {they didn't surplus them out then I don't think... {?}} give it away... |
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Quote: I´m not so sure; I have personally seen many times those kind of beard and moustaches in the end of 1960`s so determining correct period with them is quite difficult. First army surplus shops came here in Helsinki in same time and those rain legs you could see in fotos taken before wartime, of course mostly dressed on fishermen. |
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moose hunting in norway for make it easy they hunt on a taxidermied moose whats a very common method in norway |
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LoL LoL now that was funny, do you have some thing against Norway ? The chap above looks to have a Flax Kit bag that our natives make & use here in NZ ! Quote: |
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Quote: HEAVEN NO, what do you believe hunting taxidermied moose is a serious sport in norway and in fact they are realy fanatics about this. no norwegian ever shoot a living moose not even seen one because they are all dedicated long sleeper. they buy the taxidermied moose by the swedes who telling them that this is what the moose are for large sums of petrodollars. the swedes also never shoot a moose but some of them speaking latin whats not known in norway and they dont sleep soooo long. so the swedes learned by reading Julius Caesars book "Commentarii de Bello Gallico" the moose have no knee's and so slepping by lean against a tree and you can catch them by notch this sleeping tree so it broke when the moose comes for sleeping. without knees the moose once on the ground can't move away something the swedes knowing for sure from own experience when sleeping while drunk and lean against a tree than fall to the ground and being not able to move until the next morning. the finns also learned this from the swedes who have this as a trade secret but the finns offered the cheap wodka they only use for cleaning car windows and such stuff and the swedes could not resist. the norwegian also asked the finns for taxidermied moose but the finns need them all for selling as soveniers to tourists and its very common to see familys coming back from finnland with one ot two bull moose in the baggage. |
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Now you have me rolling on the ground LoL ! I was meaning this bit to ! "Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet" This guy was a short sleeper Eh ? |
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he, I am serious this is not some bloody joke but see for yourself http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...the-toilet.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...et-8902585.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hunter-shoot-moose-hits-man-sitting-toilet-article-1.1498811 |
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[quote http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUuui-CSx0U/T4...+party_mhsp.jpg . . . I don't think I would like to be a member of a group which includes the three formidable looking ladies seated in the front row. Especially the one with the shotgun. Why is the gentleman in the front row wearing a straw boater (Kreissäge)? Doesn't he know that they're prohibited after Labour Day? |
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"Why is the gentleman in the front row wearing a straw boater (Kreissäge)? Doesn't he know that they're prohibited after Labour Day?" why? it can be hot then like in midsummer |
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so because of this you think now you can't trust him with the safety rules when he get a gun in his hands? |
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germany before the great war http://www.ljv-nrw.de/media/1326144782_jagd_vor_wk1_2.jpg postcards from the International Hunting Exhibition Berlin 1937 the goods old times... imagine you show a taxidermied panda on a hunting exhibition today while looking for informations about the 8x58RD I stumble about some pics from sweden 1910, rolling blocks http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...unda_h%C3%A4rad,_Julita_socken,_S%C3%B6dermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040972.jpg 1928, on the left a Husqvarna hammer gun, on the right a M 88 and a rolling block original military stock http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040969.jpg 1928 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%...ed_endast_skinn,_huvud_och_ben_kvar._Bodums_socken,_%C3%85ngermanland_-_Nordiska_Museet_-_NMA.0040973.jpg 1950s 1971 1962 1907, clearly to the see the rolling block stutzen 1940s http://www.sikasbulletinen.se/JaktFiske.html I think post war, see Husqvarna M 46 and the old rollling blocks in 8x58RD http://www.lugne.se/ovrigt/f191.htm the King 1928 http://www.svt.se/oppet-arkiv-pub/cachab...rge/algjakt-jpg 1956 http://halsinglandsmuseum.se/veta-mer/manadens-bild/arkiv-manadens-bild/ http://www.sormlandsmuseum.se/Sormlandsm...tt/Fahuset/--2/ between 1950 and 1958 https://logdeavvo.wordpress.com/galleri-2/galleri/algjakt/algjakt-tidigare-an-1970/ 1949 http://www.arnesbilder.se/Gamla%20Boo-Hjortkvarn/aelgjakt,Knutstorp-49.htm 1936 http://www.varnamonyheter.se/sites/default/files/old_vn/1821591_0.jpg post war http://www.paharova.com/webb28/bild1/jakten.gif post war http://www.raan.nu/imgext/39a7c280-64ee-4186-9b3e-4c53535c49f8.jpg |
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I could sit here with a cup of tea looking at these pictures all day. Reminds me of what it used to be like up here back in the day before we were discovered. The characters look like any one of my old neighbors. Thank you for posting. I love this site. Norman4 |
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Quote: I see these hunters are shooting for the Norweigian Taxidermist Moose hunting trade, even a few skinned out ready for the taxidermist ! Great photos, lots of cool pics taken back in the day, those Lions stalking some thing would be hard to photograph now days & all those Keiler on the steps in town, would start a riot today ! |
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Great photos, lots of cool pics taken back in the day, those Lions stalking some thing would be hard to photograph now days & all those Keiler on the steps in town, would start a riot today ! the Lions are painted by Richard Friese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Friese , a german painter specialised in such art not so famous like Kuhnert but very good his polar bears are fascinating because of the view from above like if he had a 21. century RC drohne than |
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Wow ! He was a awesome painter, I think I have seen the Rein Deer one some where before, but not the rest . Thank you for the art lesson |
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coming back to Richard Friese I find a pic showing him 1907 siting on a elk in his east prussian home Friese" east prussian elk" bonus material for our friends from finland, Mannerheim with a 14 pointer 1935 in east prussia |
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wild boar hunt Rossgassmoos, Willisau/ Switzerland 1946 or 1947 https://wbannodazumal.wordpress.com/2013/11/ . chamois hunter/Switzerland with a nice veterli sporter https://www.ricardo.ch/usability/ch/viewitem.aspx?articlenr=738639692&rewrite=0 . the last bear shot in Switzerland 1904 http://static.nzz.ch/files/3/7/5/B%C3%BCndner+B%C3%A4ren_1.18015375.pdf |
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1911, Karel Mollen in Valkenswaard, Netherlands living 1854 to 1935 he is called europes last falconer http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/nl/items/SFA03:SFA022814950 |
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have more polar beers for you Wilhelm Dege, leader of the "Operation Haudegen" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Haudegen sailors of U 307 with a polar bear shoot on Svalbard september 1944 a member of "Haudegen" with a reindeer shoot on Svalbard, probably Rudolph members of "Haudegen" had this hunting guns on Svalbard 1 Rifle Mauser Kaliber 8 × 57 IS 1 Drilling with scope Fa. Sauer & Sohn Kaliber 9,3 × 74R 16/70 1 Double Gun Fa. Sauer & Sohn 1 22. Rimfire Rifle the english wikipedia site is wrong, Haudegen was allways in contact with the british forces in Norway after the war and continued to radio weather data daily until they were pick up by the norwegian sealer boat "Blaasel". . . . Prince Berhard of the Netherlands |
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Pyrenean isard hunting in the sixties. Dr Marcel Couturier, the greatest chamois hunter of the twentieth century Her Doctor Ernst Leitz (of Leica fame), between WW. DORLEAC www.dorleac-dorleac.com |
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It's a 7x54 MAS Fournier. Mr. Fournier, at Hery sur Alby, Haute-Savoie, was a National 300m shooter and a gunsmith who make a job in rebarelling MAS 36 in 7mm/284" and chambering them for his own wildcat, the 7x54 Fournier that was a light modification of the 7,5x54 original round. The 7x57, as all other army cartridges (30-06, 8x57, 6,5x54, 303...) is legal in France from September 2013. Now, the only forbidden cartridges are the .233 NATO, the 7,62x39, the .50 and 13mm Russian. DORLEAC www.dorleac-dorleac.com |
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Lancaster, You are right, seems these calibers were “free” until 1956. Like you I have heard about 7x57 MAS rifles and I remind, when I was a boy (a long time ago…) dreaming on a catalog from MAS with pictures of the MAS36 commercial versions offered in 7x57, 8x60S and 10,75x68. DORLEAC www.dorleac-dorleac.com |
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was probably this page you were daydreaming the 10,75x68 Mas got my attention some years ago so I am working as a truffel pig. if you dont have seen this I have a little thread and is maybe the best about this rifles you find in the net. http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=218029&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1 thank god I have such a rifle now so I can focus on the next problems |
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today is world cats day and so I stumple over the iberian lynx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_lynx the iberian lynx is called in german "Pardelluchs" and the "pardel" is the same like in Leopard or Gepard (german name for Cheetah) coming from the old greek pàrdos the name of the persian provins Parsis, today Fars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_Province were such spooted cats were common in the ancient world. the iberian lynx was probably a rare bycatch on driven hunts in the old days http://www.cuadernosdecampo.es/Website/FichasOrganismos/FichaOrganismo.aspx?keyIDOrganismo=421 you find the iberian lynx also on one of my favourite drawings, Francisco de Goyas capriccio no. 43 "the sleep of reason produce monsters" what you can also translate as "the dream of the reason produce monsters" what give it a complete different turn |
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Quote: I was making a joke. As snipes are almost always shot with shotguns, I wonder if the term "snipers" comes not from shooting an accurate rifle at a target a long way away, but instead from the skilled shotgunner shooting a fast flying snipe? The only snipe, I have seen when shooting, was a woodcock flying through the forest at tremendous speed, compared to pheasant, when pheasant shooting in England. I had started to swing on it and lining it up, when someone yelled "don't shoot!" and then someone else yelled "shoot" but my opportunity had passed in that second or two. Once upon a time snipe, Japanese and Manchurian Snipe could be hunted and shot in Victoria, before some protection of migratory birds act was passed and some international treaty closing down that legal season for ever in Australia. A challenging shooting sport for those who could do it. So, would I be a "goose" if I started telling good shotgunners, that they are "a hell of a sniper"! For good shotgunning? |
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the famous finnish sniper Simo Häyhä http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5148231/How-five-foot-farmer-deadliest-sniper-history.html |
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Quote: Would like to go to Svalbard one day. Probably never will ... BTW just finished watching the Second season of "Fortitude" a fictional series set in Svalbard, but never called that. Filmed in much warmer Iceland ... Lancaster, can you tell me. In a fictional movies about WW2, I noticed the Allied/USA maps coloured Iceland as "NAZI" or German held. Was this ever the case? I though Iceland was part of the British/USA defence against U-boots lines of defence? PS Like the colourised U-boot and polar bear image. |
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up to the war iceland war connected with denmark in personal union but in 1941 it was invaded and occupied by british troops. the british later give it to the united states and I think it was the american "influence" iceland became a republic in 1944. without the war iceland would be a part of denmark today like ireland, finland and so on would be parts of bigger empires war is the father of all things actually its very easy today to fly from stavanger/ norway to svalbard, take a look and the cheapest fly is to have for 265 euro round trip |
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Quote: I think so find a source, not the russian waters but martin bay/ labrador 1944 "U-537’s bosun, Oberbootsmann Martin Strasser (centre) beams with pride on the afterdeck of the submarine as he poses with other crew members and the polar bear he shot near the weather station installation." http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/S...13/Icefire.aspx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Station_Kurt another polar bear hunt The polar bear on the deck of U 307 submarine in Albertini Bay, September 1944. The lighter side of life at Worldie Bay as H. Semkat (left) and H. Reyer (right) hold two young polar bears. 22April 1945 modern russian nuclear submarine problem http://rebrn.com/re/walrus-asleep-on-a-submarine-3244737/ |
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Here you can enjoy the hunting scenes from Carpathians Mountains near Skole (Western Ukraine). Before WWI. |
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Great photos. The scenery looks similar to the area where I live, the foothills of California's Sierra Nevada. That's a dandy Stutzen in photo #6. With the location of the bolt handle, it looks rather like a Mannlicher Schoenauer. The vehicle in #4 looks as if it could have been built from (or copied from) a T Ford. |
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I wonder if they killed that polar bear with that grease gun. Or did they just torpedo it. |
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Ivans Interesting old photos. And unusual railway car. Thanks for posting. |
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Great photos, Ivan; thank you for posting. Louis |
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Thank you for your nice comments. I'm continuing... The same place and the same time (more-less) |
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More interesting photos. I like all three of them. The large red stag. The line up of antlers. And mostly the bear and masses of hunters, all with their double shotguns, I presume, and some singles. |
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The author Anthony Buxton, from his book "Sporting Interludes At Geneva" (Country Life, 1932). The picture is entitled 'Myself after pig'. Note the muzzle protector on his (Rigby??) rifle. |
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Quote: Hey Tony! Straighten your tie!!! |
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Quote: wrong question, the bear was shot because he was smoking! was a strict non smoking area, he was warned before twice - no third warning |
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Quote:Obviously, this is the aftermath of an execution. Normally, the condemned prisoner is allowed a smoke before being shot by a firing squad. He must have been brave, since there is no blindfold present.Quote: |
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Quote:Quote:Obviously, this is the aftermath of an execution. Normally, the condemned prisoner is allowed a smoke before being shot by a firing squad. He must have been brave, since there is no blindfold present.Quote: Very funny. BTW while all you crazu NE members are talking about cigars, I decided to blow the photo up. Is the 'cigar' the bear's tongue? Or some sort of 'last meal rite' like the last turnip? Or is it the bear's truly last Habano smoke? |
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Quote: Seems to be the same man: Col. August Von Spiess (August 6, 1864 – 1953), formally known as Oberst August Roland von Braccioforte zum Portner und Höflein, was an officer, writer, famous hunter and Hunting Master for the Romanian royal court. Von Spiess was born in Austria and became a Romanian citizen after the Union of Transylvania with Romania, following the dissolution of Austria-Hungary. In 1875, at 11 years old, he entered the military school of Sankt Pölten, after which he joined the Theresian Military Academy of Wiener Neustadt, Vienna. After 10 years of military studies, in August 1885 he became a lieutenant in the Transylvanian 64th Infantry stationed in the Alba Iulia area. In May 1889 he advanced to the rank of Major and settled in Sibiu, where he acted as drill officer. In 1893 he became a professor at the Military Infantry Cadet School of Sibiu; in 1911 he was named commander of the school. In February 1915, he advanced to the rank of Colonel and took command of the 2nd Regiment Infantry in Sibiu. Von Spiess finished his military career after the end of World War I, and was appointed by King Ferdinand I of Romania as Director of the Royal Hunts from 1 July 1921. He kept this function until 1939. Simultaneously, he was a member of the Commission for Protection of Nature and National Parks, alongside honorary memberships of many domestic and foreign societies and associations with similar interests. In 1926, Von Spiess and his daughter initiated a project to tag the birds of Snake Island, Romania. He led two hunting expeditions in equatorial Africa, in Kenya in 1936 and in Tanganika in 1938. He was a fine observer of nature, a connoisseur of game habits and a keen hunter, and gathered during his life a collection of over 1,000 hunting trophies. He also wrote a number of books pertaining to animals and hunting, mostly tied to the Carpathian Mountains region. |
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from the great war https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/44027150515/ 1917 somewhere in the Carpathians https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/43283181780/ what looks like busy trapper out for mister fox are jaw trapps laying before the own front line to catch the enemy at night this were hard times |
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must be britisch britisch austrain # german germans with some russian finland, the boy on the left must have a smooth bored swedish remington shotgun finland, looks like wartime, the hunterhave a mosin sporter russia [img]https://up.picr.de/39769223au.jpeg[/img] [img]https://up.picr.de/39769289bp.jpeg[/img] |
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Good old times exempt of incompetent politicians, uncontrolled immigration and COVID 19; thank you for posting, Lancaster! Louis |
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Quote: Without those pipes, meerschaums?, and the feathers on the hats, it could almost be my Barossa ancestors. The coats might be a bit different as well with some Aust Army great coats. |
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I love these old pics! I also take special note that the gentlemen are properly dressed. Most are wearing ties! Theres none of todays sloppiness. No mixed camouflage patterns, no t-shirts. no bib overalls without shirts. These are gentlemen doing a gentleman task and dressed as gentlemen! |
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Really nice moose; the proud hunter has a familiar face to me. Louis |
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Nice moose, that's right, but the caliber of the rifle seems a little small to me. I don't know if he shot the moose in an open area. He sometimes did things like that. |
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Maybe it's this one? Jon Speed in ORIGINAL OBERNDORF SPORTING RIFLES shows a picture of: "Double Square Bridge Magnum Mauser with 6x scope attached, made up in a 9.3x70mm wildcat cartridge based on a necked-down 10.75x73 mm (.404) case by Berlin gunsmith Ludwig Schiwy, expressly to order for Reichsmarschall Herman Göring. Note the front scope base bypasses the square receiver ring, in favour of a mount on the barrel shank". Double triggers, adjustable cheekpiece, long barrel {26", 28"?} with sling swivel on the barrel. Family crest engraved on the magazine floorplate. Not a fan of the man but his taste in this rifle is right on the money. Very workmanlike but tastefully done. Really a fine hunting rifle. |
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My wife's family were all Ostpreussisch. Came over before WW1, between WW1 & 2 and then the last of them after WW2. The story is the first thing the men did was buy rifles and a hunting license plus for one Tante who became known for making the boys a good feed for breakfast and heading out after doing the dishes whereupon she shot her deer and had it hanging on the game pole before they all got back for lunch! |
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Good Lady; one could make a success book or film with such a family history! Louis |
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Quote: No doubt if the Elch herd was managed for trophy quality. As pretty much all of Norway, Sweden and Finland are meat hunter lands, a trophy is more of a chance than planning. Having said that, when hunting wtth ErikD the second time, I did see and have an opportunity at a very good trophy bull moose. Had to count its tines, and then recount, it took a step or two and disappeared. Now I would just shoot it instantly and forget about counting its tines. Uwe, a young hunter may have shot the same bull moose the next year, and it was his first moose I believe. Magnificent trophy, the best in the region for a long time I believe. Good for him, well done. Damn I should have shot it the year before. Christian would have hated me, he had to let it walk past him, as in Norwegian the hunters had all been told to stop shooting. Not understanding Norwegian I was under no such restrictions ... Damnation !!!! Sville/Staffan on these forums, busy nowadays not shooting or hunting much, and instead long distance skiing and stuff, had a good number of excellent moose trophies in his house. Not from his home area but from an area he had lived in the past. I want to hunt there! BUT as these areas are all meat hunter areas, a trophy is not very common. My one and only moose was a bull with a tine and a tine and a half! But good meat. |
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Quote: Something we don't do much these days, formal hunting pose portraits. Dress in appropriate clothes, carry the appropriate firearm and accountrements. The old fashioned photograph studio screen behind. Looks good. Something perhaps we should do again today. A vintage look. And portrait photogrpahs for posterity. A portrait for the wall, and emailed images to friends. *** A reason we don't do this now, is photography has become so easy. So we take easy unplanned photographs and portraits. The well planned and thought out portraits for such an image have disappeared. Portrait photography of course still exists, for weddings, for pttty girls spending money for well organised images, models and the like. |
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Worth remembering that those vintage photos, although formal, were contemporary at the time. ...and we appreciate them for that! Its great to dress formally for photos occasionally, and the vintage look is simply marvelous. But I chuckle at the thought of future "students of hunting" viewing photos of us in full commercial Mossy-Oak-style camo, or in the tropics, rugby shorts and T-shirt, saying "Check out these vintage hunting photos, how quaint!" |
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Quote: Those European Hares are quite large. I used to hunt them for food with and for my Belgium Shepherd. He'd get 1/2 1 day and the other 1/2 the next day. After they were frozen, I'd cut them in half with a sickle. Not gun shy (10-.22 only - he didn't like the 12 bore), he loved to hunt them with me. That would be about 1966 or so. |
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Quote: but who would be the bad guy than in the storyline? hollywood style would be a young american found himself on such a hunt, an arrogant count beat him for nothing but he clever knock him out. then the complete hunting party try to kill him but he take one after the other in a most brutal way, most time with a .45 Colt SAA shooting the head off or the balls. in the end riding on a rainbow unicorn into the sundown to free people of colour. |
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Quote:Quote: Ausgezeichnet! That's a screenplay! Delete this immediately before anyone steals it and sends it off to 20th Century Studios! lanc, it's your chance to make a mint! (We expect to be informed where to see you in your cameo appearance...the Poacher maybe? ) |
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Quote: Yup. That is exactly what it is. "Egalitarianism"! |