NitroX
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| 28/04/22 09:53 PM |
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.22 RF handgun for hunting
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Does anyone use their .22 RF handgun for hunting?
Just for interest, not legal here to hunt with a handgun.
I would think a good .22 RF handgun would make a good survival tool. For a pilot or similar.
I like the old German handguns where a butt stock can be fitted to a handgun. Often a wooden holster designed to be a stock as well. Does anyone make modern handguns where a butt stock, tradition or modern skeleton type can be fitted? Particularly for .22 RF semi auto, something like the Ruger Mk IV? Or other .22 handguns?
What about buttstocks able to be fitted to other centrefire handguns?
I know there is a old revolver pistol design with a fittable buttstock.
I believe I have seen a Glock with scale ial buttstock and stock design.
This is assuming it is legal. This is discussion only.
What about sighting systems? Attaching a scope? What sort? Red dot sights?
Anyone hunt with them? Rabbits? Squirrel? Careful shots on medium game? If using larger cartridges, medium game?
I think a modern .22 handgun or centrefire with a intregral wooden or synthetic holster butt stock. Integral cleaning kit rod. Maybe a red dot or optical sight. Would make a wonderfulnemergrncy survival tool.
Any modern examples?
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NitroX
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| 28/04/22 10:17 PM |
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On the subject of Butterick holsters for handguns, the Browning HiPower also did!
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0d883979320e95e3089b7ec109bab423-lq
| lancaster |
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| 28/04/22 10:58 PM |
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22 lr handguns are used here for shooting trapped animals or for "Baujagd" - hunting fox and badger in the den with dachshunds and spates
| Ripp |
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| 28/04/22 11:25 PM |
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22 lr handguns are used here for shooting trapped animals or for "Baujagd" - hunting fox and badger in the den with dachshunds and spates
Used the same here.. dispatching trapped coons, badgers, coyotes, fox, etc..
Personally I used one a lot in the summer for gophers (ground squirrels)..have a little Ruger revolver "Single Six" from years ago.. I have quite a few .22 rimfire handguns.. good practice..
On the farm/ranch.. we use a .22 rimfire when slaughtering cows or pigs... but normally a rifle..
| DarylS |
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| 29/04/22 09:45 AM |
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Trappers here can get a permit to pack a handgun, but it is for protection only, so .357 Mag. minimum.
"Only" specifically states than all "fired" munitions must be recorded and why.
So- failure to ever acknowledge of use for protection purpose, might suggest this permit was not required by THAT individual?????
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NitroX
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| 29/04/22 04:54 PM |
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Horse and motorbike "cowboys" can carry a handgun on a permit here. Justification is a long arm can't be carried. To put down cattle.
One of our outfitter members had a permit to carry a handgun for scrub bull hunts as protection.
Does the NT have better laws in this regard?
| 260rem |
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| 29/04/22 06:00 PM |
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No unfortunately the NT doesn't allow it, but I know a few farmers in Queensland that do.
Great for riding past a mob of pigs on a motorbike, or for telling a wild bull to back off when checking the water.
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NitroX
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| 29/04/22 06:06 PM |
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No unfortunately the NT doesn't allow it, but I know a few farmers in Queensland that do.
Great for riding past a mob of pigs on a motorbike, or for telling a wild bull to back off when checking the water.
Maybe it was a more liberal interpretation of the "outfitters" licence in the NT.
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NitroX
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| 29/04/22 06:36 PM |
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The .22 RF I will probably acquire. A Ruger S/A Mk IV %arget pistol.
First this is discussion only, it is illegal to add a stock to a semi auto handgun or use it for hunting.
But add an ugly oiccatinny rail fit a QD red dot sight for better accuracy. Or replace the rear sight. Or a small low powered scope.
And I could see a handgun like this with a C96 Mauser style wooden Butterick holster.
Would make a very handy usuable firearm.
https://www.cmrfirearms.com//images/Maus...mk21jcusedbfsi3
https://www.jbmilitaryantiques.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/20220303_091850-scaled-1.jpg
https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Im...p;autosizefit=1
| 260rem |
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| 29/04/22 08:13 PM |
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No unfortunately the NT doesn't allow it, but I know a few farmers in Queensland that do.
Great for riding past a mob of pigs on a motorbike, or for telling a wild bull to back off when checking the water.
Maybe it was a more liberal interpretation of the "outfitters" licence in the NT.
I know that hunting guides, fishing guides and remote area pilots used to be able to have one for emergencies.
But I've never met anyone that has done so in all but the past tense.
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NitroX
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| 29/04/22 08:21 PM |
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No unfortunately the NT doesn't allow it, but I know a few farmers in Queensland that do.
Great for riding past a mob of pigs on a motorbike, or for telling a wild bull to back off when checking the water.
Maybe it was a more liberal interpretation of the "outfitters" licence in the NT.
I know that hunting guides, fishing guides and remote area pilots used to be able to have one for emergencies.
But I've never met anyone that has done so in all but the past tense.
I think Matt Graham said he could.
| 260rem |
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| 29/04/22 09:34 PM |
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Could or did?
That's, the problem with the folks running our registration systems.
I'm in NSW and by law I can get a moderator for recreational hunting, but like hundreds of people that applied for one, they have never processed anyone's application that wasn't government or a professional pest controller.
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NitroX
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| 29/04/22 09:49 PM |
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Could or did?
Did. He passed on several years ago.
| Marrakai |
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| 29/04/22 10:29 PM |
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Could or did?
Did.
Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 Casull was the big one, also a .44 Magnum.
I scoped the Super Redhawk for him and sighted it in. Glued the scope mounts on with High Strength Loctite and they held up perfectly during the sighting-in and subsequent fun-shoot. The next time I saw it, a few months later, a client had requested open sights so the scope had been removed! That revolver will still be recognizable by the remnants of red Loctite on the top-strap!
The NT situation is interesting. An Occupational Firearm Licence may be granted for handguns (H-class) if the applicant can demonstrate genuine need, ie a long-arm is not practical or cannot reasonably be used. Its definitely not a given, though.
Also, a permit to use a handgun registered for another purpose, eg club target shooting, may be granted for a different purpose under certain circumstances.
It was much simpler before the post-Port Arthur apocalypse:
If a handgun owner had written permission from a land-owner and a letter of support from his pistol club, then he would be granted a permit to hunt with a handgun.
The good ol' days!
| Ripp |
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| 29/04/22 11:14 PM |
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The .22 RF I will probably acquire. A Ruger S/A Mk IV %arget pistol.
First this is discussion only, it is illegal to add a stock to a semi auto handgun or use it for hunting.
But add an ugly oiccatinny rail fit a QD red dot sight for better accuracy. Or replace the rear sight. Or a small low powered scope.
And I could see a handgun like this with a C96 Mauser style wooden Butterick holster.
Would make a very handy usuable firearm.
I have 2 of those..they shoot exceptionally well.. very accurate.. nice little practice handgun..
| DarylS |
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| 30/04/22 03:34 AM |
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The 4" Ruger with lightweight barrel, I found was very easy to use for shooting aerial (hand thrown) targets.
With my model 10 5" .38, I had to aim using the sights. With the Ruger, point and shoot, like with a shotgun.