| longfeather |
| (.224 member) |
| 07/02/09 01:18 AM |
looking for ammo
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Hello All,
I've recently acquired a Russian Nagant revolver from a relative.
The limited documentation with it says it is chambered for 7.62x38R ammo.
I can't find reference to this caliber any where. On the Load Data web site I can find 7.62x39 Russian but nothing in '38R'.
My questions:
1. Is the '7.62x 38R' and the '7.62x39 Russian' actually one in the same caliber or are they different?
2. Anyone know where I could find a reputable source for ammo in the U.S.?
Thanks in advance,
Longfeather
| Tatume |
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| 07/02/09 02:17 AM |
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Re: looking for ammo
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The 7.62mm Russian Nagant revolver fires a low-power, rimmed cartridge. Ammo is scarce, although Fiocchi made some not too long ago. If you can't find any, cases can be made from 32-20 Winchester cases.
Both the revolver and the cartridge are interesting designs. The revolver cams the cylinder forward and effectivly seals the barrel/cylinder gap. The cartridge has the bullet seated compleatly inside the case, probably to also aid in sealing gas pressure.
The 7.62x39mm Soviet cartridge is a medium power rifle cartridge intended for select fire carbines. It is neither similar to nor interchangable with the Nagant revolver cartridge.
| Huvius |
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| 07/02/09 02:40 AM |
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Re: looking for ammo
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http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-762-nagant
| Marrakai |
| (.416 member) |
| 07/02/09 09:17 AM |
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Re: looking for ammo
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As I understand it, cases made from .32-20 are not long enough to make the 'gas-seal' feature work. Case-length for the .32-20 is 1.315 inch whereas the Nagant case is 1.53 inch long.
I have a nice example of the NCO's Nagant Revolver (single-action only- the officer's model was double-action), and dies for both deep-seating in the correct-length case, and for the converted .32-20 case. So far, projectiles have proven to be the problem (they are light, and from memory they are not .308), but I really haven't had the time to devote to getting mine up and running.
I picked up a box of Bertram unprimed brass a few years ago. If you can't get Fiocchi or the Serbian stuff Huvius lists above, you could spin-out the .32-20 to correct length on a lathe. Slightly thinner case-necks would probably help with deep-seating anyway.
My thinking on this cartridge has always been that if you can't achieve the gas-seal that made this revolver what it is, might as well not bother. The ~100gr bullet only gets 750-odd fps in short cases, whereas 1100 fps is achievable with the gas seal by all accounts.
| lancaster |
| (.470 member) |
| 11/02/09 02:51 PM |
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Re: looking for ammo
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its common and safe practice to shot 32 S&W wadcutter ammo for plinking in the nagant
they bulge or split, so what