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What do you guys think of this gun and caliber? Thad Scott Rodda 500/475 -Steve |
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Is that a stock repair in the wrist? the floorplate doesn't seem to fit up well to the action metal, has it been restocked? Has it been rebarreled (even if a very long time ago)?--those barrel reinforcements don't match the contour of the standing breeches... Looks rough. Price seems high. --Tinker |
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I don't know for sure what that thing is, other than you probably don't want it. There was never a .500/.475 cartridge. The seller says this gun uses a .470 case with .483" bullets. No, I don't think it's been rebarreled. The proof marks on the flats are for the .475 3 1/4", which uses .483" bullets, and is based on the .450 case. I'm pretty sure that this rifle is just a .475 3 1/4" that had badly pitted chambers which somebody cleaned up with a .470 reamer, resulting in a wildcat. Call it a ".500/.475" and presto, it isn't a buggered gun anymore! The "barrel reinforcements" aren't that at all. Those are the wings of the shoe-lump assembly. Rodda seems to have used shoe-lump barrels almost exclusively. No, the wings don't follow the contour of the fences perfectly, but that's just the way Rodda's look. That thing is gonzo over priced. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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400, Where did you find the proof marks? Are there additional photos some where? Thanks! -Steve |
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Steve: A friend of mine asked me what that gun could be, so I called. The seller is a touch shy of exact details, but did say that the proof marks included ".475EX" which yields three possibilities - 475 3 1/4" NE, .475 No. 2, and .475 No. 2 Jeffery. The gun is set up for .470 cases, so the latter two are not possible. The .475 3 1/4" NE was never popular and was not widely chambered. The only makers I've ever seen multiple guns from in this caliber are Charles Lancaster, Cogswell & Harrison, and R. B. Rodda, with the vast majority coming from the latter two. I'm pretty sure this rifle was originally a .475 3 1/4" as it is marked ".475EX" and Cogswells and Roddas are unique in being common in this unusual caliber. Given a DR with usable bores but buggered chambers, where possible, cleaning up with a reamer for the next size up case is the shortest and cheapest route from a useless rifle to one that can give good service again. You see these in various calibers from time to time, sometimes reproved, sometimes not. In recent years, I can recall an Evans .400/.360 Purdey that had been reamed to use the .375 Flanged Magnum case necked to the existing .366 bore, and a Rigby .450 3 1/4" NE that was simply rechambered to .500/.450 3 1/4" H & H. Both of those were re-proved. BTW, there's another Rodda .475 3 1/4" boxlock for sale on Westley Richards' web site. Champlins has . C & H. .475 3 1/4" sidelock. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Steve; I own a DR with non-standard chambers. Run, don't walk the other way. Way overpriced. About impossible to resell when you are tired of it. Raff |
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Thanks Guys!! I've drooled over that sidelock on Champlin's site before. The One on WR's site is a beaut as well. The Rodda struck my unschooled eye as a bit rough as well. I'd never heard of that chambering either. Probably wouldn't have bought it in either case, bu I'm glad that I asked about it here. -Steve |
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Does it seem like Thad Scott has a lot of these types of rifles? |
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Naw. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |