rigbymauser
(.400 member)
31/03/21 01:40 AM
WR hammer doublerifles...

..howcome we never see hammer express doublerifles from Westley Richards?..I have seen one for sale in a period of 15 years.
Just wonder..


3DogMike
(.400 member)
31/03/21 04:38 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Interesting question. Now I wonder that as well.
I found this, tho it likely has more to do with Westley-Richards guns as opposed to rifles.

https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/westley-hammers

Perhaps the last paragraph is the key to answering the question.

- Mike


Huvius
(.416 member)
31/03/21 06:31 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Probably because William Anson was Foreman of Westley Richards’ Gun Action department.
So, Westley Richards adopted the Anson & Deeley hammerless action much earlier than most other makers.


TH44
(.375 member)
31/03/21 09:26 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

I have a WR Hammer Cape rifle in .577/450 and 12 bore that WR told me was made in 1903
It has a top lever action and is posted here somewhere
Very plain, probably a "budget" rifle for the South African market with the usual 1000 yard multiple sights

TH44


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
01/04/21 02:13 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Jens,

does a 10-bore count?



A bore rifle, is not really an express rifle though?

PS No I STILL have not shot it! One day soon ...


DarylS
(.700 member)
01/04/21 03:47 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Ahh - gets an express powder charge, but not the express projectile.
Nice.


rigbymauser
(.400 member)
01/04/21 08:32 PM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Quote:

Probably because William Anson was Foreman of Westley Richards’ Gun Action department.
So, Westley Richards adopted the Anson & Deeley hammerless action much earlier than most other makers.




That could very well be a reason.

The hammer WR bpe rifle I saw for sale on GI was a .500ex with barrelmarkings that said the rifle was regulated for the WR longrange bullet 570grain , charge 120grain. The gun weighed 10,5 ibs. Wished I had bought back then, but my cashflow was in a low tide.

I just like these ol’ bpe doublerifles and I am in the marked to buy another one when the right one pops up. I am just one of these persons who don’t know what to buy until it pops up right in front of me..lol


rigbymauser
(.400 member)
01/04/21 08:35 PM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Quote:

Jens,

does a 10-bore count?



A bore rifle, is not really an express rifle though?

PS No I STILL have not shot it! One day soon ...




Its a start

Have the gun any markings in regards to charge and bulletweight?


NitroXAdministrator
(.700 member)
01/04/21 09:44 PM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Quote:

Its a start

Have the gun any markings in regards to charge and bulletweight?




I refer you to the original TEN YEAR OLD thread. And it still isn't shooting. Something finally must be done ...

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=194053&an=&page=0&vc=1


3DogMike
(.400 member)
02/04/21 02:06 AM
Re: WR hammer doublerifles...

Quote:


I refer you to the original TEN YEAR OLD thread. And it still isn't shooting. Something finally must be done ...




John,
I just read your old thread, very interesting.

What caught my eye was that your rifle was “Made for P. Orr & Sons, Madras & Rangoon”.
I have recently acquired a Cogswell & Harrison Certus rifle in .450/.400 3 1/4” that is also marked; “Made for P. Orr & Sons, Madras & Rangoon” in line with the usual Cogswell & Harrison line on the barrel.

Don’t see too many guns and rifles here with the P. Orr & Sons marking. Perhaps more commonly found in Oz?
- Mike



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