| baileybradshaw |
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| 31/10/18 01:29 AM |
Rising block double rifle...something new
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Greetings, It's been a while
Wanted to share a new action design I have developed for single shot and double rifles. I call it the Rising block. I'm very excited about it. Combining the principles of a falling block and a break action, it is both very strong ( verified by Finite Engineering analysis)and easy to operate and with much better dimensions than my falling block doubles had. It is also very simple internally with in-line strikers and trigger/sear arrangement similar to a bolt action. Hope you enjoy
| DarylS |
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| 31/10/18 04:14 AM |
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VERY interesting, Bailey.
Good choice of wood for this "piece".
I can't quite make them out, but are those extractors at the
5:30 to 3:30 position on the rear of the chambers?
| tinker |
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| 31/10/18 06:55 AM |
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That's pretty neat.
Will you be at SCI Reno?
| baileybradshaw |
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| 31/10/18 08:08 AM |
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Daryl,
Yes, extractors are on either side of the dolls head. The underlever actuates them. They have enough snap to send the cases almost completely clear of the chambers
Tinker,
I won’t be at any of the shows this year. Not at SCI and wont have a booth at Dallas but am trying to get in at Houston
NitroX
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| 31/10/18 09:40 AM |
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Interesting concept. And thanks for posting your new rifle idea.
But I have to say, without actually holding one, it looks like it would be awkward to use?
With a normal break open gun, the lever opens the action, perhaps with the left hand assisting the barrels to break. No use of the lever should be needed to close the action. The right hand is used to insert two new cartridges, the left closes the action while the right resumes holding the pistol grip. Some might hold the pistol grip instead while inserting cartridges, then retunr the left to close the action.
With a normal rising block action, the lever opens the action, while the left hand holds the rifle, the right can insert a cartridge(s) and then close the lever.
With this design, the empty rifle, the right hand opens the lever. If the right hand is then used to load the cartridges, it must then be returned to raise the lever. The whole rear of the gun and butt must he raised at this point? Or the left hand compensate by pushing down the barrels and forend, presumably with the butt snuggled into the shoulder? Just looks like it would be awkward.
While it is called a "rising block" if the left hand is holding the forend, operating the lever with the trigger hand, means the butt is actually being dropped?
But I guess like anything, getting used to something, and familiarity with it makes a big difference.
(My comments above assume a right handed shooter)
Interesting idea. This design makes the double shorter than a usual derising block or drop block rifle. And from the comments, considerable more strength, than a break open rifle.
Bailey,
What sort of chambering do you think you will be considering in this design? Are rimmed cartridges still preferable, or is the extraction considered superior to normal DR extractors?
Closed, the rifle looks pretty much like a normal break open DR with good clean lines.
Hope to read and see more on this design in the future as you progress with it. Good luck with it.
| baileybradshaw |
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| 31/10/18 11:52 AM |
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John,
The lever throw is only 30 degrees, so a right handed shooter would lower the lever with the right hand, left hand forward under the barrels. Once cases extract, the right hand goes to the stock wrist while left hand loads, and with the short lever throw, the lever in s easily reached with the fingers of the right hand, squeeze the lever up and close the action. I will make a video. It is easier to operate than a typical falling block because of the short lever throw.
Any rimmed cartridge from .22LR (scaled action of course), up to .500 NE
| DarylS |
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| 31/10/18 02:24 PM |
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Exciting! Out of my pay grade, but exciting.
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NitroX
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| 31/10/18 10:17 PM |
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Bailey,
Thanks for the explanation. It would be good to handle one one day and see how it works and feels. Congratulations on a new design. No doubt it will make waves.
| rigbymauser |
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| 08/11/18 07:33 AM |
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Thanks for sharing Bailey.
You belong to a rare breed. Many of the early German gunsmiths of the 1900s created their own block verschluss and kipplauf system along with their own cartridge serie.
| crshelton |
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| 08/11/18 09:08 AM |
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Please do a post to let us know when and where you will be showing this rifle.
| DarylS |
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| 08/11/18 03:02 PM |
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Yes - want to see a vid when shooting, it Bailey -this is
EXCITING IN THE EXTREME!!!
Appears & sounds revolutionary.
| baileybradshaw |
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| 08/11/18 03:02 PM |
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I'm trying to get a last minute spot at the DSC or Houston SC show. Will certainly post booth info if I get in.
| rigbymauser |
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| 09/11/18 03:57 AM |
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Quote:
Please do a post to let us know when and where you will be showing this rifle.
You already have a .45/90 in your planning Right?..:LOL
| carpediem4570 |
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| 01/09/20 02:48 PM |
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Hello Bailey:
Very interesting system.
As was asked earlier,"Are rimmed cartridges still preferable, or is the extraction considered superior to normal DR extractors?".
When do you anticipate taking orders for this new model?
Will you be offering an introductory price, as you did with your falling block design?
Can you give us a rough cost for a blued model with no embellishments? I assume there will be a different price point when transitioning up from 9.3.
Kind regards,
Carpediem