| Nojden |
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| 16/01/15 01:02 AM |
Sauer double rifle - info and reloading suggestions
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First I would be very happy to get some more information about this double rifle, I can´t find anything on the web but perhaps in this forum?
It´s a post war Sauer & Sohn rifle in 7x65R, probably from the 1960 era? According to the former owner it´s regulated with 173 gr RWS.
I´ve tried several loads with 170 and 175 gr bullets (woodleigh, nosler partition, speer GS, norma oryx) and different Norma powders (MRP and URP) without satisfying groupings (about 6" and up). I also tried the Sellier & Bellot 173 gr SP that gave about 4" groupings at about 90 yards, with the scope on. I´m new into double rifles, and perhaps I´m doing wrong, or have to high expectations - but I´d like to find a load with a premium bullet (not the S&B) that shoot about 3" at 90 yards....perhaps not possible?
I appreciate all kinds of information and advice here!
Thanks
(hope the picture is visible...)
[image]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXWVByWEJEVjNqLUk/view?usp=sharing[/image]
| lancaster |
| (.470 member) |
| 16/01/15 03:20 AM |
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Re: Sauer double rifle - info and reloading suggestions
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thats better
as a first advice: make more pics , make good pics, show the proof marks and any details the gunmaker left on the rifle
any small information could be valueable to understand your problem better. Sauer&Sohn still exist
http://www.sauer.de/en/products/
you can ask if they have any informations
I would try original RWS ammo
| dan_oz |
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| 16/01/15 02:39 PM |
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Re: Sauer double rifle - info and reloading suggestions
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The ideal is for the bullets from the top barrel to be striking above those of the bottom barrel, by about the same distance as the distance between the muzzles.
The first thing that needs to be checked is the way that you are shooting. You may be aware of this, but to check the regulation you need to hold the rifle as you would in the field. In other words, in your two hands, not sitting it directly on a rest but resting the back of your weak hand while holding the fore end.
Next you need to see where each individual barrel is printing, which can be done by setting up two targets, and firing the bottom barrel at the first and then the top barrel at the second, one after the other in short order.
If the bottom barrel is printing low and the top shooting high, the usual cure is a faster load. If instead they cross, with the bottom barrel shooting higher than the top, the usual cure is a slower load. And if they are separated horizontally you may find it is due to canting the rifle.
a composite group of 3" at 90 yards should be achievable. FWIW my own much more utilitarian double shoots 4 shots (2+2) into about 2 1/2" or so at 100, scoped.
HTH
| Nojden |
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| 23/01/15 02:10 AM |
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Re: Sauer double rifle - info and reloading suggestions
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Some more pictures here, but probably not visible - can't really figure out what I'm doing wrong....changed the instant code to url,to make them at least reachable
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXaFAwdmV0SzFSd2s/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXZUpNTDJrQmJMaEE/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXRmVXWi01b2FGeWM/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXc1hFYlZMQ2w3MkE/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXcldUY3c1Y0pma0E/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXOF9neFNDdDZRS00/edit?usp=docslist_api
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0K_Bk4SeACXak1GaVhUSWczanM/edit?usp=docslist_api