| 500Boswell |
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| 02/02/19 10:03 AM |
Wanted Arisaka Type 38 Carbine Stock in GC
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Need a Type 38 6.5 Carbine Full wood stock in good condition uncut or cracked ,original
| 9.3x57 |
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| 02/02/19 12:43 PM |
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Need a Type 38 6.5 Carbine Full wood stock in good condition uncut or cracked ,original
Why not add "made from Circassian walnut and provably having been owned by Emperor Hirohito" to the description!
HaHa!!
Just kidding!
But that's a tall order!
What have you got cookin'?
We've got an early war dandy Type 38 rifle here and what a peach it is to shoot. One of the funnest ever. The Type 38's are very neat guns.
Do you just need a stock to put on back in original condition or something?
How common are Jap milsurp rifles in Oz?
| 93x64mm |
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| 03/02/19 08:42 AM |
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Everyone used to laugh about them until P.O.Ackley did his pressure tests on them - literally couldn't blow up the early ones!
Whatever you're making Boss it will be a corker!
| DarylS |
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| 03/02/19 12:44 PM |
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I well remember those blowup 'tests'. Loads that disintegrated or welded up 'other' actions, showed normal pressures in the Arisaka, 38, which had enormously elaborate heat treatment.
| 500Boswell |
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| 04/02/19 09:32 PM |
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Had some years ago ,and bought two recently .one is a type 38 Carbine, but has been cut down ,the fellow I bought it from, told me the barrel was perfect ,when I got it and looked down the barrel its perfectly HAD IT !!! One I had years ago, used to send bullets through the target sideways ,then one day had one shot out of it, and two holes appeared in the target ! one was a round hole ,the other was a piece of the jacket embedded in the paper !
| 500Boswell |
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| 04/02/19 09:33 PM |
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Ackley said the loads that blew M17s to bits, did nothing to an Arisaka !
| 9.3x57 |
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| 05/02/19 01:38 AM |
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They aren't perfect, of course but I've really taken a shine to the one we have. Problems reported with the Arisakas involve highly variable accuracy which seems to be a component of bore/groove depth variations. Also the late-war production is terrible in roughness, actually ruining the feel and operation characteristics of the gun. And of course the cast steel trainer rifles should not be shot for safety reasons.
Col John George in SHOTS FIRED IN ANGER" and Roy Dunlap in ORDINANCE WENT UP FRONT did good writeups on the service use of the Jap rifles and George even carried one on Guadalcanal for a time!
The 6.5's are so easy to shoot like the 6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenauer and -Carcano rounds but even more so as they have a smaller capacity and in the big Type 38 you hardy know when the thing goes off! No muzzle flash either which led to the false belief the Japs had cooked up a truly flashless powder which was debnked during the war. Turns out it was only a factor of the small powder capacity and the L-O-N-G barrel.
I cooked up a method to make brass from 8x57 cases and tho it works it's a pain and thankfully we have Prvi brass which has held up well.
Ours is a peach. Very accurate and I actually shot a ground squirrel with it at 60 yards!
Here is a group shot for an ARFCOM Challenge. 100 meters/109 yards, 15 shots in 3 minutes including reloads, sitting position, elbows rested on knees, no sling, no other support. 5.436 center to center for a 4.75 MOA group. Actually beat out most of the AR's and other modern rifles!
| xausa |
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| 05/02/19 04:10 AM |
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My first center fire rifle, bought in 1958, was a 6.5X50 Arisaka. Following my gunsmith's advice, I had the barrel shortened to 24" and supplied with a ramp and Sourdough front sight, the action fitted with scope blocks and receiver sights, the bolt handle altered to clear a low mounted scope and the barrel rechambered using a .243 Winchester reamer with a .264" pilot attached. The existing neck in the chamber obviated the need for a neck reamer.
I used the it as both a deer rifle and a varmint rifle, until graduating to a .22-.250, also built on an Arisaka action. I had read Ackley's book and was greatly impressed with the strength of the action, plus the rifles were cheap to buy, even by '50's standards.
My wildcat cartridge anticipated the .260 Remington by several decades.
| DarylS |
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| 05/02/19 05:00 AM |
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Col John George in SHOTS FIRED IN ANGER"
I enjoyed reading that book, many years ago.
| 500Boswell |
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| 05/02/19 08:14 AM |
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9.3x57 ,they are not overly common ,hard to find a good one .There was someone selling a pile of them in one lot about three years ago ,but only from memory to a Dealer ,would not sell one to an individual .Looked like they were dug up some where .I don't know who bought them in the end ,They did dump a lot of them into Tokyo Bay at the end of the War
| 500Boswell |
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| 05/02/19 08:18 AM |
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Had one rebarreled to a 308 years ago ,but the gunsmith never modified the follower etc for it ,so it never fed properly ,the best shot I did was a crow at about 220 yards ,with a Nikko Stirling 3-9 scope