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16 ga by Anton Vinzenz Lebeda in Prague no. 1 of a pair probably made for the The Prince of Lobkowicz SN 10190 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5359283 . . . 16ga side look by Field London http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5352831 . . . light 20 ga single shot by H&H The gun was specially built for 'Mrs Ramsay Gibson Maitland',Scotland, c. 1887 -1895 Serial no.: 5820. http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/holland-holland-single-barrel-sporting-gun-calibre-20/i3677624/ |
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when hearing Vickers seeing machine guns and tanks, dont know they were making fine guns also Vickers Armstrong Limited doubletrigger, 12/70. SN: 1456. http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/haglge...ector/i3772386/ solid working gun for field and stream http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/hollan...ansp/i3771737/# Holland and Holland kal. 12, SN 24796. J Purdey and Sons kal.12, SN 13579. http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/j-purdey-and-sons-jagtgevaer-med-ejektor-i-kal-12/i3771745/# |
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12 ga double gun by E.Blanke/ Naumburg this is not a Teschner Collath! http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5357165 |
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Lancaster - Many thanks for you for continuing to post such excellent guns Despite being the "smaller`` gun, the 20g single H&H is the one for me (in my dreams!) TH44 |
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16/65 by A.Berger in Magdeburg http://www.naturabuy.fr/Juxtapose-A-Berg...em-2567690.html |
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very nice witht he rare pinfire loading tools "NICE CASED FRENCH PINFIRE SHOTGUN by LEPAGE FRERES: In very nice original condition. Excellent quality pinfire shotgun marked LEPAGE FRERES A PARIS. 16 gauge caliber. 2 ½ inch chamber length. 29 ½ inch barrels. Excellent metal with beautiful damascuss pattern barrels retaining all of their original brown finish. Some fine engraving on miscellaneous parts. Fine stock showing some light handling marks. Excellent actions and fine bores. Comes in its very good original cloth and leather wrapped wood case showing normal wear. The inside is lined with original green velvet fabric and comes with several original period tools. The case is 31 ¼ inch long by 8 ½ inch wide and shows a nice engraved cipher on a brass plate located on top. A very attractive case set of nice quality! $2450" http://www.antiquefirearms.com/pages/409.htm |
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16/65 double gun by Thieme & Schlegelmilch in Suhl with the "Nimrod Nose action" http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5673716 |
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20/65 Nowotny, Prag http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5734915 No. 2 of two guns . . . 12/65 Nitro proofed, Alex Henry 12 North Street, Andrew Street, Edingburgh http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5725810 again No. two of two guns |
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4 ga. punt gun http://www.naturabuy.fr/CANARDIERE-rare-2m35-25kgs-item-2809492.html 2,35 m long, 25 kg |
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16 ga double by Nagant/Liege with rolling block action http://www.czernys.com/auctions_lot.php?oggetto=59484&asta=57 16 ga by Ebbeke/Herzberg http://www.czernys.com/auctions_lot.php?oggetto=60480&asta=57 |
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nice Sauer&Sohn Royal 12ga http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/jagtgevaer-j-p-sauer-sohn-model-royal-s-s-i-kal-12-70/i4187702/# |
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interesting 12 ga Pieper /Bayard http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/bayard-jagtgevaer-i-laederkasse-2/i4204319/# |
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16 ga Sauer&Sohn hammergun http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5928122 |
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not a best gun, just a simple 8 ga. fowler but with an interesting action I never see before http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/glatloebet-hagl-gaasegevaer-kal-8/i4285452/# |
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Gustav Fückert/Weipert 16 ga "Kronen Gewehr" crowns rifle http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6007476 |
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http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/haglboesse-af-alexander-henry-co-edinburgh-kaliber-12-70/i4411418/ Alexander Henry & Co. Edinburgh ,12/70. SN: 8320 "Alexander Henry&Co 22 Frederick St. Edinburgh . Incorporated With Alex Martin. Glasgow. Aberdeen & Stirling" |
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FN auto five in 16/65 made 1910 with custom made stock made by someone who was able http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6150573 |
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Heinrich Barella 16 ga pinfire double, SN 1689 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6207360 |
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nice belgian 8 bore pinfire wildfowler gun or in french a Canardiere (from canard = duck)with old leather gun bag http://www.naturabuy.fr/RARISSIME-CANARDIERE-CAL-8-A-BROCHE-item-3552875.html interesting gun for a project - 4 ga center fire AND pinfire in one gun http://www.naturabuy.fr/canardiere-cal-4-item-3233532.html |
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The 4 bore is very interesting. It is apparently unsold but with no price and little French I cannot see a way for me to get it to the UK Thanks for posting TH44 |
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12 ga W. Foerster Berlin http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/w-foerster-berlin-koenigl-hofbuechsenmacher-jagtgevaer/i4503004/# |
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Quote: This Vickers shotgun is a lot like my Azhur Spanish shotgun, except my Azhur has deatachable sideplates. |
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there are more interesting guns, must have been a nice collection 12 ga "The Automatic" James Woodward & Sons, 64 St. James Street, London http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/james-woodwad-sons-jagtgevaer/i4503002/# 16 ga Husqvarna model 301 L http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/husqvarna-model-301-l-haglgevaer-sjaelden/i4503001/# 12 ga A. Francotte & Cie, Liege http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/a-francotte-cie-liege-jagtgevaer/i4503007/# |
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Huge drool factor, there, Lancaster - HUGE! From top to bottom. |
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a danish 12 ga by R. Nielsen, Vester Skjerninge http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/r-nielsen-vester-skjerninge-haneboesse/i4502999/# 12 ga pinfire by Westley Richards, 170 New Bond St., London http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/westley-richards-hanegevaer/i4457218/# 16 ga pinfire double rifle by C. Rache in Breslau http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/c-rache-in-breslau-haneboesse/i4502989/# 16 ga by C. Teich, Bischofswerda http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/c-teich-haneboesse/i4502996/# |
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beautyful french double gun( no name on it) damascus barrels but new proofed for 16/70 nitro cartridges http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6264036 Cogswell & Harrison 12/65, two guns in original box http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6308139 C.Schilling in Suhl, new proofed for 12/70 Nitro in the 1980s http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6241052 |
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12/65 hammergun by Pieper in Liege SN 136528, only blackpowder proof so proably made araound 1900 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6167400 damascus barrels in a steel monoblock |
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32/65 by Francotte in Liege http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6378761 |
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16/65 double gun, probably number 3 of 3, by W.Förster Berlin http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6446298 |
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V. Chr. Schilling, Suhl pinfire double gun, SN 18210 http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/v-chr-...en-h/i4712768/# |
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ex Heinrich Barella /Berlin double rifle in 500 BPE, SN 3258 now a 28 ga double gun http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6543339 |
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Darne double gun in 16/65 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6542570 12/65 double gun by F.W. Kessler in Suhl http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6544600 |
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Immanuel Meffert/Suhl "Hubertus Gewqehr" 16 ga. SN 0635 http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/imman-meffert-suhl-underlukker-haglboesse/i4708120/# F,Stadelmann & Comp. Suhl pinfire double gun http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/p-stadelmann-suhl-underlukker-haneboesse/i4708250/# H.Pieper from Liege SN 106577 http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/h-pieper-a-leige-haneboesse/i4708249/# unknown maker, SN 74111 http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/haneboesse-s-s-ca-1900-rigt-dekoreret/i4708106/# V.Chr. Schilling /Suhl pinfire double gun SN 18210 http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/v-chr-...en-h/i4712768/# |
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A. Lebeau-Courally/liege 12/70 sidelock http://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/d...;currentpos=259 " In the year 1939 Charles, Count of Flanders and Prince of Belgium, (1903 – 1983), the brother of the Belgian King Leopold III., appointed the Liege gunmakers Auguste Lebeau-Courally, famous as purveyors for the Imperial Russian court, to build two field guns, intended as a gift. ... Charles was installed as Prince Regent in 1945 by the provisional government to replace his exiled brother, and also his gift was finally finished: A pair of fine sidelock ejectors for the French General Charles de Gaulle ... The makers kindly confirmed that the serial number 43041 is the number two of this same pair." |
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a 20/70 Fückert side lock gun http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6646676#img Remington patent 16 ga double gun made by Nagant/liege https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/roll...p;currentpos=25 16 ga falling block double gun System Bobbert, SN 2342 https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/dopp...p;currentpos=26 |
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good french 8 ga goose gun for a good price http://www.naturabuy.fr/canardiere-cal-8-item-4316625.html thinking allways it must be simple to make another 8ga rifled barrel for such a gun |
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12 ga Schilling in Coburg http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6765009 |
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J. Kulhanek, Neunkirchen 16 ga http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6857114 |
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the old single shot guns made from older blackpowder military rifles dont have many enthusiast today interesting history, than made for export into the colonys because they were cheap and - being single shot and smooth barrel - inferior to any police and military rifle of the colonial power. other sold at home were bought probably most times by farmer and so called field warden for crop protection this ones are better made because of the checkering 20 ga,ex belgian Comblain rifle http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7013828 old austrian muzzle loader, after 1866 converted for breech loading with the Wänzl action and decades later build into a 16 ga http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7032358 |
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all from the next Holts auction "Sale A0918 Lot 647 - Fine Modern & Antique Guns - September 2018 A SCARCE 11mm PINFIRE REVOLVING SHOTGUN, UNSIGNED, MODEL 'LEFAUCHEUX TYPE', serial no. 6430, Belgian, circa 1870, with octagonal smoothbore 24in. barrel, blade fore-sight, standing notch and elevating ladder rear-sight, plain blued cylinder with external ratchet locking, open iron frame (traces of colour), chequered walnut straight-hand butt-stock with raised cheek-piece, iron heel-plate and flat-fronted complex trigger-guard bow" https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...2&saletype= this is probably not the .410/ 36 ga pinfire shotshell but a smaller one iirc, called 10 mm pinfire shotshell most times "A SCARCE 8-BORE PINFIRE DOUBLE-BARRELLED FOWLING-GUN, MODEL 'LEFAUCHEUX PATENT', serial no. 6934, Swedish circa 1870, with damascus 33in. barrels, the top-rib signed 'C.A. FISCHER & SOHN, LUBECK, HOFLIEFERANTEN INV. MAJESTAT D. KONIGS V. SCHWEDEN', twin gold lines at breech outlining the pin-holes, deep hammer nose-wells, long top-tang, borderline and scroll engraved rounded action and back-action locks, scroll engraved hammers, chequered walnut butt-stock with raised cheek-piece, iron heel-plate, complex carved and moulded horn cover for the lower tang, moulded horn cover for the forward facing under-lever, smooth walnut fore-end and fitted with swivels " https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...685&image=5 sold by a german dealer "Fischer in Lübeck" this double came from sweden. till now I found no evidence that such large shotguns were used in germany but they were of course in use on the cost for geese in northern europe "WESTLEY RICHARDS, LONDON A 12-BORE PINFIRE DOUBLE-BARRELLED SPORTING-GUN, MODEL 'BAR-IN-WOOD', serial no. 11440, for between 1866-1871, with 30in. damascus barrels, white metal bead at extreme tip of top-rib with lip to bottom rib, the top-rib signed 'PATENT' and 'WESTLEY RICHARDS, 170 NEW BOND ST. LONDON', carved and scroll engraved standing breech and top-tang, broad scroll engraved top-lever signed 'WESTLEY RICHARDS PATENT', chequered walnut half-stock with 'crab-claw' joint at hinge, engraved iron furniture and missing horn tip from fore-end" the very first pinfire double gun(iirc!) with a top lever https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...791&image=4 |
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a common PieperBayard hammer gun, the only thing uncommon is the chambering - 32 ga SN 96183 https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/l/17...p;currentpos=11 |
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nice 14 mm = 32 ga childdouble gun, 95,5 cm long http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7206891 |
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16 ga Meffert with grip lever cocking http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7222154#img |
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12/65 Walther self loading shotgun https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7726045 |
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no caliber given but this little toy probably fire the 12mm pinfire shotgun cartridge(36 ga/.410) https://aukro.cz/puska-system-lefos-vzacne-skladaci-provedeni-kolem-1850-gravirovana-6961236357 a Thieme & Schlegelmilch/Suhl 12 ga, SN 36326 with the Nimrod action https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/thiem...-kal/i5500574/# maybe a 24 ga https://aukro.cz/revolverova-brokovnice-systemu-lefos-rarita-1863-75-6952347252 "Smooth barrel caliber 15mm, on the bar signature "SERRA". Six chamber cylinder, with side ejector bar. It has a walnut stock on the neck with a roughened dovetail. Frame and trigger guard decorated with floral engraving. Length is 115cm. Gunsmith "MARTIN SERRA" documented in 1863-1875 as gunsmith in HAVANA. Rotation and release mechanism OK. The stock has 5 holes for woodworm, but it is long gone ... holes can be retouched. (but I don’t offer a hare in a bag, so I introduce and do not retouch)" |
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https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=222 Hammer S/S shotgun C. Gründig - Dresden, 16/65 74 cm barrels of brushed rose Damascus, concave rib, gold inlaid maker's name, gold ribbon inlaid breech ends, bright rounded action, foliate scroll engraving with hares on the left, fox with pheasant on the right, surrounded by gold inlaid ribbons, non rebounding back-action hammer locks, trigger guard in French style, sliding / tilting action similar to Collath, long horn underlever beneath the fore-end, silver inlaid oval on tang, walnut stock with horn finger rest, splinter missing from fore-end wood, expertly repaired, year of manufacture about 1880, without proof, condition IV. https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=226 Hammer S/S shotgun Fr. Lesak - Podebrady / V. Marel - Policka, 16/65,75 cm barrels of browned Damascus, concave engine-turned rib, gold inlaid maker's name, extractor, choked full & full, bright action, engraved and etched with foliate scroll surrounded game scenes, fox with partridges on the left, dogs with partridges on the right, roe deer on the action bottom, partridges on the trigger guard, this in French style, gold ribbons inlaid breech ends and top lever, walnut stock, carved with foliate scroll in place of the chequering, fore-end hinged with Deeley latch (wood cracked), sloping cheekpiece, pistol grip, behind this carved with a stag, buttplate 34cm, year of manufacture after 1918, condition 4. https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=227 Semi-automatic shotgun System Sjoegren Automat, 12/65 71 cm barrel, brass bead, choked full, blued action with massive block, fixed barrel with sliding breech, non automatic sliding tang safety, detachable by the retractable magazine tube, barrel can be unscrewed, walnut stock, straight hand, original buttplate 37cm, year of manufacture 1908, condition II-III. Archaic semi-auto gun patented by the Swedish inventor C. A. T. Sjoegren, made in Copenhagen. Only build for one year with less than 5000 units it is exceedingly rare and very collectable. C.G.Haenel "German Safety Gun" https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/deutsches-sicherheitsgewehr-von-c-g-haenel-suhl-s-s-ha/i5595622/# Beskrivelse: 'Deutsches Sicherheitsgewehr' von C. G. Haenel, Suhl. Våbennummer: 8981. S/s haglbøsse kal. 16/70. Med sidelås og markørpile for spændte haner. Hanerne spændes når sikkerhedslåsen trykkes frem. Rigt graveret. Totallængde: 117 cm. Løbslængde: 75 cm. Kolbe: 36 cm. Fremstår med stram og funktionelt mekanik, blanke løb, intet slør samt med aldersrelaterede brugsspor. Jagttegn påkrævet. https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=229 Hammer S/S shotgun Joh. Springer - Vienna, 12/65,76 cm barrels of twist Damascus, flat rib gold inlaid "Joh. Springer in Wien" and decorated breech ends, back-action hammer locks, dolphin-shaped hammers with hare's ear spurs, rotating T-bolt action with long underlever type Lefaucheux, fore-end with wedge fastener, all engraved with fine foliate scroll and Bulino style naive scenes, amply gold inlaid, double triggers, trigger guard in French style, carved horn finger rest, well grained original walnut stock, later added leather covered cheekpiece, steel buttplate 36,5 cm with serial number, blank silver stock oval, year of manufacture about 1865, bores pitted, stock beginning to crack through the hand, condition III-IV. |
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Mosin repeating shotgun, 36/65 "Frolovka" https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=551 |
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rare 24 ga toplever hammergun https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8720811 |
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Genschow & Ca AG, hard to find a 32 ga hammer gun https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=9670951 |
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a simple and crude, maybe homemade, 20 ga single shot https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/115659/15478873?offset=50& it was build by using a WW 1 german Hebel signal pistol 4 bore single shot with a big gras action https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/115659/15478893?offset=50& |
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nice belgian made rolling block double gun for 410/76 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14501607 |
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24 ga single shot made from a italian vetterli blckpowder rifle - nice work https://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusil-vetterli-...em-8559689.html |
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Bet those 24 bore rimfire shells are expensive when you find them. Cool gun. 58cal. |
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oh no, common center fire , still made by Fiocchi https://fiocchi.com/en/catalog/ammo/shotshells/24-gauge.html |
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no wonder its so hard to find the cartridge extractors, he hade them all https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7541416/ |
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don't ask me how this work, see it the first time I see such an action-ä so called Kaiser patent 16 ga https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/halggevaer-kaiser-patent-kal-16-65/i6181066/ |
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Amazing. Really interesting 24 bore ammo still made. When I was a kid, 24 bore brass & paper hulls were suggested from making up Snider cases. |
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Fiocchi also made 32 ga https://fiocchi.com/en/catalog/ammo/shotshells/32-gauge.html Fusil Nemrod 16 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900396?offset=150& Pieper Actionless 47, 12 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900397?offset=150& Baby Breton 12 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900398?offset=150& |
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A Cased Pinfire Pistol with Changeable Barrels and a Detachable Stock(Poacher´s Pistol) Description: Three changeable 20 gauge barrels of different lengths (12, 28 and 58 cm) and mouth piece retain 80% original brown finish. The breech stamped with St. Étienne proof mark after 1856. The tang, boxlock action, rotary under-lever and trigger guard all engraved. Smooth one piece walnut grip. France circa 1860, length 28.5 cm. In a matching lockable walnut case, the lid with a brass escutcheon. The interior is lined with green velvet. Containing the detachable walnutstock, reloading accessories, cleaning rod and 10 pinfire shotshells. Dimensions 62 x 7.5 x 20.5 cm. Condition 2+ https://eaukce.antiques-auctions.eu/en/d...le/?idimg=30261 |
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belgian made 32 ga hammer gun, very slim https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8454325/# |
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http://old.municion.org/semi/32.htm 1 Pound / gauge = weight of lead sphere Diameter of bore is then measured gauge pounds mm inches 0.25 4 67.34 2.651 0.5 2 53.45 2.103 0.75 1+1/3 46.70 1.838 1 1 42.42 1.669 1.5 2/3 37.05 1.459 2 1/2 33.67 1.326 3 1/3 29.41 1.158 4 1/4 26.72 1.052 5 1/5 24.80 0.976 6 1/6 23.35 0.919 6.278 1/6.278 23.00 0.906 7 1/7 22.18 0.873 8 1/8 21.21 0.835 9 1/9 20.39 0.803 10 1/10 19.69 0.775 11 1/11 19.07 0.751 12 1/12 18.53 0.729 13 1/13 18.04 0.710 14 1/14 17.60 0.693 15 1/15 17.21 0.677 16 1/16 16.83 0.663 17 1/17 16.50 0.650 18 1/18 16.19 0.637 20 1/20 15.63 0.615 22 1/22 15.13 0.596 24 1/24 14.70 0.579 26 1/26 14.31 0.564 28 1/28 13.97 0.550 32 1/32 13.36 0.526 36 1/36 12.85 0.506 40 1/40 12.40 0.488 |
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Some wild stuff there Lancaster! That old 32guage gun looks rather neat! |
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Thanks lancaster, for the gauge data. I used it to write a small gauge calculator. For example a .410" diameter bore would project to be ~67.5 gauge |
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My chart is labeled: The Los Angeles Silhouette Club and runs from 180 bore, .296" & 38.9gr. to 1 bore @ 1.671" & 7,000gr. |
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nice 12 ga Darne doublegun https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19079907#img |
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a 12 ga 1908 patent Sanner double gun made in St. Etienne https://www.galeriedemars.fr/armes-categ...rance-xixe.html |
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Lancaster, Wow, the Sanner action is very interesting. That is the first time that I have seen what appears to be a rolling block DB shotgun. |
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Yeah, that's a first for me too. Thanks, lancaster. Never cease to be amazed by the number of intriguing dead-end designs on the road to SxS shotgun perfection! |
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Yeah well I'm just going to consider that to be yet another dead-end that hasn't quite hit the wall yet! |
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I call it the gay-gun and it will be the future of small game hunting. when your friends see you coming with a pink gay gun they maybe laughing about you but over the years their minds will be change and they will understand how brave you were once. you should try it! |
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Quote: LOL- spot-on!! |
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When you buy a pink gun, do they throw in a case of Bud light? (Well, AB has to move Bud Light someway!!) |
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Quote: I was going to 5ake my Dad's old Mossberg which he let go very rusty into a flat green. Maybe pink so I can identify as a diverse shooter?! Maybe a pink Camo? |
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I think the word is Inclusive? Well, one of them, anyway. It's ridiculous for a hunting gun, but might do well for home defense, especially when presented at your trial for murdering an "almost" innocent criminal. |
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a common interwar years boxlock made for and sold by Geco but the stock is something I have not seen before https://auctionet.com/de/2960700-geco-kaliber-12-tillv-nr-304556/images#image_1 |
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a very unusual belgian made pinfire revolver shotgun with 18 mm caliber given maybe a 12 ga https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19285024 |
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That's a funky looking firearm. |
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H&H Dominion https://auctionet.com/sv/3066505-hagelge...n-kaliber-12-65 till now only 259 euro |
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french or belgian 8 ga center fire gun, never see a gun with a hammer standing across https://www.naturabuy.fr/canardiere-systeme-lefaucheux-calibre-8-item-11392529.html |
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That is pretty weird, for sure. That's a lot of cross-wise stress on the hammer, I'd think. |
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italian Vetterli shotgun sporter, must be a small bore gun https://www.armiusate.it/ex-ordinanza-avancarica-antiche/armi-lunghe-antiche/carabina_i1169580 |
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Likely no more than 32 bore, or whatever the .41 Vetterli case would make if opened up straight. |
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Like a .410 shot case then Lancaster? |
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32 would be .52" + a few thou. A .410 would be undersized I'd think. |
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12 ga double with an unidentified action https://www.czernys.com/asta-139/?o=101039 |
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https://www.marambat-malafosse.com/en/lo...sy?search=& "Extraodrinaire shotgun with system and barrel by Isaac Samuel armurier in Paris. Calibre 16. Damascus barrel of 750 mm long octagonal then round. Signature "....Samuel patent of invention without gas loss with safety stop" in gothic letters. A lever of underguard located at the front of the trigger guard induces the arming of the hammer, the rotation of the cylinder and the advance of the barrel when using its terminal ring one makes it swivel forwards. A tilting part is positioned at the air gap and ensures the locking and plating towards the rear of the cylinder, while allowing the barrel to pass through. A side trap door uncovers the mechanism, in position of opening the cylinder leaves its housing by swivelling on the right while remaining integral with the carcass by the intermediary of its articulated axis. Collective extractor in the form of a star of extraction and rotation of the removable cylinder by hand. English stock. Sheet metal butt plate. Functional mechanism. Set having turned to grey tobacco. A very rare piece, probably made in a few copies. Worthy of a hunting curiosity cabinet." |
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William Rochester Pape Newcastle. S/s shotgun with side lock, cal. 12/70, end of the 19th century https://www.auktionshuset.com/en/auction...-lock/i6452901/ |
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If I remember correctly, Pape was one of the first to invent a detachable (screw-on) choke for single barreled smoothbore guns. |
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That's a beautiful shotgun. |
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That is one very nice piece of kit! The engraving is just wonderful & the browned barrels really set it off nicely! |
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They were very good at that watery brown colour. |