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DarylS
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23/12/22 03:34 AM
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Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Gun Digest
https://gundigest.com/rifles/hunting-rif...l&dm_i=7C6R,5SLI,2MFAH9,SQK6,1
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degoins
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24/12/22 08:40 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Since I've only been to Africa twice so far and I love my big bores, I
have used them a lot on deer and pigs. I killed a doe with my .375 just last Saturday.
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tinker
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24/12/22 12:25 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I've shot jackrabbits with the 458 Winchester
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NitroX
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24/12/22 08:38 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I've used my 9.3x74R on pigs, African plains game such as warthog, maybe some others. Horses, donkeys, scrub bulls. Dingos. I forgot what else. Water buffalo.
I've used my .375 on dingos, pigs, feral cats, foxes, fallow deer, African plains game such as zebra, warthog, bushbuck, impala, and others. Donkeys, scrub bull and Cape Buffalo.
I've used my .450 DR on pigs, warthog, scrub bulls, banteng, elephant.
I'd like to use the .450 a lot more. And the .375 more. Especially try some lighter bullets, the 235 gr etc. Only ever use 300 grs on game. Used other weights in targets.
The .404 needs to be used with some light bullets. I have 257 gr bullets for it.
Same as the 10-bore. Needs to be used on bovines. But also medium game.
I'd like to use some of the big bores on feral pig culls like in the past. Does anyone still go on feral pig shoots shooting several hundred.
The other fun practice cull option I wish I could crack on is culling roos on permit. Good running/hopping practice. No need to worry about meat damage. As long as animal lib nutter authorities aren't insisting on head shots only.
Rabbits would be great precision practice.
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DarylS
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25/12/22 06:04 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Quote:
I've shot jackrabbits with the 458 Winchester
Good going. I've shot grouse with my "long throated" .458 2". 510 WW at 2,060fps, and a red squirrel with my .69 - 482gr. RB.
Shot lots of grouse with the .69 and round ball loads while moose hunting. Always seem to have 165gr. of 2F loaded when I get a good shot at a grouse's head. Instant kills! 
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Rule303
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25/12/22 09:20 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I have not used the 416 Rigby on a wide range of game just rat (if they class as game???) cats, pigs, Baboons, Wildebeest, Cape Buff and Ele. The time I used it on a rat I was wondering if I was seriously under gunned.
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Marrakai
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25/12/22 03:30 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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In my circle of hunting friends, feral cats are "double points" so they get belted by whatever you're carrying at the time.
That has included .577 and .400 Nitro in the past!
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Ahmed577
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(.333 member)
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25/12/22 10:49 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I HAVE AN ADMISSION. IT TOOK 2 shots left and right from my 600 h&h in the NT. First shot complete miss at 10 metres it seemed stunned by the sand blown beneath it. Second shot through the chest. The projectile exited. I reckon it weighed 4 kilograms. It was a very ugly TOM.
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DoubleD
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26/12/22 12:12 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Due to the economy I have had to postpone my Cape buffalo hunt a Year.
So what do I do in the mean time with my Ruger No. 1 in 450/400 3" NE. I shot a doe whitetail with Hornady 400 grs. DGX bullets. I like how that bullet performed on deer, but that shot told me I think I need a better bullet for cape buffalo.
Oklahoma Whitetail Does are pretty bad ass. The shot knocked her to her knees and she got up and ran off.
Okay she only ran about 40 yards, shot through he heart.
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NitroX
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26/12/22 08:16 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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DD, sad to read. But good luck a year later. Have fun on deer and hogs in the meantime.
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NitroX
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26/12/22 08:19 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I think I'd have to have a fair amount of luck to hit a rabbit or cat with my .450 dr.
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DarylS
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(.700 member)
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27/12/22 06:08 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Yeah - bolt guns are definitely different from doubles. I shot 34 grouse one fall with the .458, some simply changing the full power load (when time) for one loaded with 15gr. AL8, case full of kapok and a 230gr. Speer swaged 230gr. They shot to the post in the scope reticle at 25 yards, so easy to shoot their heads off.
Velocity was 1,350fps & would shoot into 3" at 100 meters.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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It's okay - they were subsonic loads:
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m239
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20/08/23 01:46 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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500J vs Fox
TrailBoss plinking load
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m239
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20/08/23 01:49 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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buckstix
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20/08/23 10:02 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I took 5 years, but I finally scored a Wisconsin Whitetail with my 700 Nitro Express.
It was hard to get to within 75 yards and shoot standing.
I hand-loaded a reduced load to 1,550 fps with a 1000g Woodleigh. (2,000 fps is a full-load)
The recovered bullet weighed 975g and expanded to nearly 2 inches.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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The posts are interesting but I don't understand all the sense of the topic because shooting small game with big bore rifles is not unusual. In Africa for example, or in other countries of the world, where in the context of big game hunting there is often only one big bore rifle available and this is then used for everything, among other things to shoot small game with it. In addition, no reduced loads are used for this, but the normal loads.
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NitroX
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(.700 member)
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21/08/23 04:02 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Shooting rabbits with a medium or big bore is good practice. Haven't done it for years. Must revisit it.
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93x64mm
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21/08/23 06:33 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I took 5 years, but I finally scored a Wisconsin Whitetail with my 700 Nitro Express.
It was hard to get to within 75 yards and shoot standing.
I hand-loaded a reduced load to 1,550 fps with a 1000g Woodleigh. (2,000 fps is a full-load)
The recovered bullet weighed 975g and expanded to nearly 2 inches.
You must have tough White tails over your way mate - you would think those .700"projectiles would just sail through virtually unmolested! 
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buckstix
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21/08/23 11:17 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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You must have tough White tails over your way mate - you would think those .700"projectiles would just sail through virtually unmolested!
I shot him lengthwise - chest to butt - bullet was under the hide in his hind end.
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85lc
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22/08/23 02:40 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Buckstix,
I bet that deer didn't run far. Wow, a bullet expanding to 2".
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kuduae
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22/08/23 09:17 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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For several years I used my .416 Rigby with a “plains game” load, 350 gr Speer or North Fork / 100 gr VV N160, almost exclusively, both in Germany and Namibia. I don’t remember the number of animals at the moment, just the species: Hare, fox, jackal, roe deer, warthog, boar, fallow deer, impala, wildebeest, red deer, oryx, greater kudu.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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shooting a fox with the 9,3x64 with 300 grains softpoint once I am still wonder such small animals don't blow up by the speed and energy of the such a high power rifle. yes, I know the bullet don't open in this small body.
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DarylS
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23/08/23 03:45 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I think perhaps the velocity isn't quite high enough, lancaster, for explosive events with low or non-expanding bullets.
If the speed was higher, in approximately 3,300fps or higher, for example, more explosive results would occur.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I once shot a bustard with the cartridge 460 WBY-Magnum and a 500gr SP bullet, full load.
It was just a big hole at the base of the neck, but otherwise nothing of the meat was destroyed.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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just see this- this is not the same thing we are talking about. its very ,very extreme and its not hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/emrzFRaL1C8
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DarylS
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(.700 member)
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23/08/23 08:11 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I once shot a bustard with the cartridge 460 WBY-Magnum and a 500gr SP bullet, full load.
It was just a big hole at the base of the neck, but otherwise nothing of the meat was destroyed.
Thankfully the meat was not damaged. 
Are they edible?
There would not be enough resistance for the transfer of any energy to the bird.
I've blown up Columbia Ground Squirrels with my .17AB and .17AH at up to 350yards (nothing but chunks), and with either ctg. on them to 520yards, instant kills with gut shots. The .17Rem will dismantle them a little further out than those small cased wildcats.
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DarylS
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23/08/23 08:19 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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just see this- this is not the same thing we are talking about. its very ,very extreme and its not hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/emrzFRaL1C8
LOL- just some good old boys out for some hog blasting.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I once shot a bustard with the cartridge 460 WBY-Magnum and a 500gr SP bullet, full load.
It was just a big hole at the base of the neck, but otherwise nothing of the meat was destroyed.
Thankfully the meat was not damaged.
Are they edible?
There would not be enough resistance for the transfer of any energy to the bird.
I've blown up Columbia Ground Squirrels with my .17AB and .17AH at up to 350yards (nothing but chunks), and with either ctg. on them to 520yards, instant kills with gut shots. The .17Rem will dismantle them a little further out than those small cased wildcats.
As written, just a big hole at the base of the neck and otherwise no destruction. The bird did not jump up either.
I also once shot a warthog in the chest with my rifle caliber 500 Schüler when he jumped over the road, similar to by a driven hunting. The warthog ran about 20m before it fell over dead. With the same cartridge loaded with a 535gr FMJ bullet at 2400 fps, an elephant with heart shot go down on the place days before.
It's all a question of the resistance of the games body. I have shot quite a few small game with big bore rifles and almost always observed the same thing.
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Maybe an exception.
I shot this wild boar from a high seat at a relatively short distance with my rifle caliber 460 WBY-Magnum, a full load with a 500gr SP bullet. The boar jumped up and fell dead, but weighed around 130kg, was strongly built and so the working of the bullet.
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NitroX
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23/08/23 07:43 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Some of what I've hunted and shot.
I remember impressing myself one time hitting a dingo with my .375 with a 300 gr RNSP at 220 yards.
The big bore boar hunt here at NE, a striped bush panther (feral cat) head shot with the same.
Lots of feral pigs with the .450, .375 and 9.3x74R. A good number of warthog with the same.
A few bunnies and other hoppers.
I'm not big on using the bigger bores or even medium bores on small game. Rabbits can be practice however.
I'd prefer feral goats, pigs and roos on destruction permits for big bores.
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93x64mm
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23/08/23 09:43 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Maybe an exception.
I shot this wild boar from a high seat at a relatively short distance with my rifle caliber 460 WBY-Magnum, a full load with a 500gr SP bullet. The boar jumped up and fell dead, but weighed around 130kg, was strongly built and so the working of the bullet.
That is one hell of a nice pig GV!!! 
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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Some of what I've hunted and shot.
I remember impressing myself one time hitting a dingo with my .375 with a 300 gr RNSP at 220 yards.
The big bore boar hunt here at NE, a striped bush panther (feral cat) head shot with the same.
Lots of feral pigs with the .450, .375 and 9.3x74R. A good number of warthog with the same.
A few bunnies and other hoppers.
I'm not big on using the bigger bores or even medium bores on small game. Rabbits can be practice however.
I'd prefer feral goats, pigs and roos on destruction permits for big bores.
I used my Big Bores to shoot smaller game just because I only had this weapon on hand. These are all game shot as part of big game hunts. Otherwise, I use the more or less suitable weapon and cartridge for each game species.
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That is one hell of a nice pig GV!!!
Thanks !
I was hunting Wisent and that is why I shot this wild boar with my rifle caliber 460 WBY-Magnum.
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NitroX
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24/08/23 03:53 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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That is one hell of a nice pig GV!!!
Thanks !
I was hunting Wisent and that is why I shot this wild boar with my rifle caliber 460 WBY-Magnum.
Hunting wisent. Impressive.
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NitroX
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24/08/23 04:00 PM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I'm not big on using the bigger bores or even medium bores on small game. Rabbits can be practice however.
I'd prefer feral goats, pigs and roos on destruction permits for big bores.
I used my Big Bores to shoot smaller game just because I only had this weapon on hand. These are all game shot as part of big game hunts. Otherwise, I use the more or less suitable weapon and cartridge for each game species.
Same for me. Usually when hunting other game eg buffalo.
Though feral animal and roo culling do give practice options when available.
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DarylS
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25/08/23 01:29 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I shot 34 grouse one fall with my .458 2", using 13gr. AL8 and a .451" Speer Swaged RN meant for the .45 ACP. They shot to the post of the flip-up post in my Bushnel Custom 2 1/2X scope at 25 yards, and into 3" at 100. Head shots, of course.
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93x64mm
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25/08/23 05:59 AM
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Re: Big Bores for Smaller Game
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I shot 34 grouse one fall with my .458 2", using 13gr. AL8 and a .451" Speer Swaged RN meant for the .45 ACP. They shot to the post of the flip-up post in my Bushnel Custom 2 1/2X scope at 25 yards, and into 3" at 100. Head shots, of course.
Now that's good shoot Daryl!
Good to have you back mate
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