Hello lanchaster,
Thanks for the reply.

I really appreciate the catalog pictures. I'll save them in my file for this gun. Thank you.

As for chamber length, although the seller's ad stated 2-3/4" I didn't take that for granted. I measured both chambers and they are 2-3/4". Close examination with a bore scope shows that it appears to be the original un-altered length. Having said that, I use 2-1/2" brass cases for the rifled barrel.

I did my first testing on Saturday, and I think this paragraph from a fellow on another Forum pretty much describes the gun I have .....

" ... There is another particularity which we are going to find on the barrels ..... The (shallow) rifling. For the dispersion of shot when firing at a short distance, and for the shooting of ball...."

The targets below show the results of Saturday's testing. I started very conservative, and at close range because the snow was only plowed to our 25yd range. I will carefully increase velocities in my next load testing. I anticipate with the correct load the gun will shoot more to point of aim. I will be adjusting both velocity and bullet weight to try to achieve this. I found it difficult sighting with the swamp rib and a single bead front sight for aiming the rifled barrel. I think a lot of the dispersion was due to that. I'll likely get better as I become more familiar with this sighting system. I'm guessing the option of shooting a ball, was intended as a way to take advantage of as unexpected opportunity for a deer, or boar, at reasonably range.

Of particular note is that both the light weight 1oz hollow base bullets, and the heavy 1-1/2oz bullets stabilized in the slow twist of the rifled barrel, as evidenced by round holes, in close (although separated) groups. I did not shoot either bullet in the smooth bore barrel.

I tested first with shotshell on the 17" square target. A mild 1oz target load of 7-1/2s. The shotshell fired from the left smooth bore barrel patterned a bit high because I aimed the gun like a rifle, instead of "covering the bird" like one normally would with a shotgun. However, the results
shows a good pattern from its modified choke. But, the shotshell fired at 25 yards from the rifled right barrel shows only 23 pellets from the 338 pellets in the 1oz cartridge. (the black circles) I fired a second shell in the right rifled barrel on the same target, but this time I moved closer to 12 yards. That shot shows a very uniform pattern. (the red circles) This barrel would be excellent for shooting of close flushed game, or in-coming driven game, with the ability for a follow-up shot from the left barrel if the range increased.

Next I tested the rifled barrel. Some years ago I had a custom bullet mold made for the 1-1/2oz (655g) .676 dia. 16 gauge bullet. I wanted a bullet that duplicated the German bullets used in Vogel Schiessen rifles. I have two of those types of rifles, one in 18 gauge and one in 16 gauge. The bullet casts .676 and was sized down to .660 dia for this gun's bore. The hollow base 1oz bullet is from a Lyman mold and casts a .695 dia. slug. Although the groove dia of this gun is .660, I fired this bullet as is. The soft hollow bullet swages down through the forcing cone with no effect on pressure. I did not directly lube either bullet. After the cartridges are loaded, I dripped 6 drops of oil, one drop in each for the fold openings of the crimp, and store the cartridges "bullet-up". The oil coats the bullets and is absorbed into the fiber wad below it. This method has worked well in my Thomas Bland Paradox gun with no leading. I used the paradox crimping tool I designed (and sell) to hold the bullets in place.

GERMAN VOGEL SCHIESSEN BULLETS

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MY 16 BORE BULLET

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1-1/2oz 655g BULLET - .676 dia sized down to .660 dia

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1oz 438g HOLLOW BASE 16ga SLUG - .695 dia

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BULLETS CRIMPED WITH THE CUSTOM PARADOX CRIMPING TOOL - THAT I MAKE & SELL

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TARGET SHOWING BULLETS FIRED IN RIFLED BARREL @ 25yds

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TARGET SHOWING 1oz #7-1/2 SHOT FIRED IN RIFLED BARREL @ 25yds (BLACK) and @ 12yds (RED)

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TARGET SHOWING 1oz #7-1/2 SHOT FIRED IN SMOOTH BORE MOD CHOKE BARREL @ 25yds

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