thank you axel, you had shown the pic before but I dont remember where. reminds me on the famous pic of fredrick selous

do you know anyone have ever work about the Berger action in gun literature before? we simply lack the basics about this problem - who, when and where.

there was a Rudolf Berger in Köthen who start to copy the Dreyse needle fire guns in the late 1850s.
guns with his name are very rare and the only one I find now was this 11 mm needle fire pistol

http://www.hermann-historica-archiv.de/a...amp;db=S-50.txt

very similar to this Dreyse duelling pistols

then we have a A.Berger in Magdeburg in the 1870s, here an advertisement for garden guns dated 1877

no doubt the A.Berger who made the double gun above

so the question is if A.Berger in Magdeburg was maybe the son of Rudolph Berger in Köthen.
do you believe all of the german Fürst Pless guns were made for the trade by A. Berger, of course not the copy by Victor Colette.
iirc, Heinrich Barella who had two of this guns here was born also in Magdeburg so probably was well known with Mister Berger.