this thing become now so long I lost the overview

the rifle I looking for is allreay here on the first page

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http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_de/auktion-65.html
N. Dreyse in Sömmerda made in 1860/61. cal. 12,5 mm, serial number. 334. barrel 60,5 cm long and made for prussian navy officer as a gift.
what we see is a beautyfull stutzen not a double but only one rifled barrel made as a break action in the general lines of the dreyse double gun ZIMMER describe as the "old " modell. giving as a gift in the beginning of 1861 it was probably made in 1860. the dreyse hunting gun was developt by Franz Dreyse in 1856 so I would think its the hunting gun number 334 made since 1856 AND ALL dreyse hunting guns are in one group of serial numbers"

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=244637&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

back to the F.v.Dreyse Patent bolt action...

find it in Rudolf Schmidt "Die Handfeuerwaffen" 1877 Basel/Switzerland

so despit of the fact that the probably oldest experimental rifle with this action having a "1870" mark the Patent bolt action got the patent on february 23, 1874. that means probably that the last needle rifle model for the Baden customs was made after 1874 when the Mauser 71 was allready in production.this seems hard to understand but maybe it was a question of money like most times in life. 100 cartridges for the needle fire rifle have cost 4,50 mark and 100 cartridges for the Mauser 71 8,75 mark. after all I have learned about bureaucracy this seems reason enough.