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450- Sean used a 45/70 marlin with 400 TSX , good shot tough bull. At the extra velocity the #1 would drive the 400 it would work better. To put the recoil and flip into a perspective I fired the 500 loads out of my mates #3 didnt shoot it twice. In fact never fired his #3 again. heres acouple of pics of Seans bull and projectile recovered both lobes of the lungs high and forward nearly missed the lungs. Mick ![]() ![]() ![]() |