Drew,

Thanks for the info! 4831 it is! I think the Trail Boss may be made in Australia as well, have you fooled with it? I don't crimp mine either. I seated the bullets to the middle of the cannelure. That Hydro is sure a unique looking bullet! I just received 1 box each of Hornady DGX and DGS bullets. Will give them a go next time. Too damn cold to enjoy a day at the range today! Your pictures with all the greenery are killing me!

Regards,

Jeff