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Heres a couple of pics of my mates new re-designed Gibbs styled Farquharson falling block he has just started making these & will be marketing them shortly . He reckons they are made to "Best Gun" standards (they sure look like it !) & CNC machined from Boehler Tool steel with a coil spring in line striker . ![]() ![]() He will have a Web Site up in a couple of weeks ! |
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Jesus, they are superb. They certainly look "best". Well done to him. |
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those are some very nice lines, i will look forward to see more of from this makers hands best peter |
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Nice! More details please. Curl |
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Very nice. I have developed an infactuation with Gibbs Farquarsons. This one certainly has the right look. |
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That is a masterpiece and your friend deserves the salute of anyone who loves fine guns and works of art! ![]() Yes, more details, please, and do post the links here when he has his website up and running. Thanks for posting and good hunting! |
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Wow that thing is nice looking! How many has he built now? Are there different action sizes? What's the biggest/smallest cartridge he's building them for? You getting out to hunt with one soon? Cheers Tinker |
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Looks good. Please post more pictures and information as you get it. Is the Farquharson the next classic SS design to make a comeback? It seems that a few outfits are tooling up to build them (Ballard is working on one as well but I have not seen any details). |
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That is a beautiful looking rifle.Very elegant and beautifully finished.Thanks for sharing. Best- Vikram |
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Thanks guys , he will be pleased to hear that , Hell I will need to get more info , this is all I know on details that I can tell ! The receiver size on these is Ruger # 1 size ,so can fit most Cals , trigger is adjustable for weight and "Breaks like Glass" no castings used any where . These are going to cost more than a Dakota but less than a English rifle , he said . But he is still working on costs and pricing ! And no has not let me take it out hunting yet LoL ! ! He really should , being I have been a sounding boad on a fair bit of stuff around this ! |
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Are they made in NZ ? |
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Fabulous looking rifle. With Rigby and now this getting going - it's too much! Good luck with it. Chris |
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No Kidding RockDoc- This is shaping up to be *not such a bad century* after all, eh? Cheers Tinker |
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It would be if we had more money eh ! Yes, fully made in NZ ! (we're a bunch of craftmens here LoL !) |
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No Kidding Mate! Cheers Tinker |
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Finally at last...somebody took up the idea, to make the "Farks" again. Me?....very very interested ![]() |
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Quote: Sarge, chuffed as to see this lovely looking SS and posted the link on http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...d_r#Post3225965 where it was suguested it may by this pre-made kit. http://www.wyvrncstgs.com/farq.php Your post reads as made completely here in NZ. Can you confirm and supply a bit of detail to confound the nay-sayers. Von Gruff. |
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Thank you Von Gruff ! Yes , fully made & designed in NZ , other than wood (grown in Turkey I think) This is a whole new action in design , has a coil spring powered inline striker ! I can't give too much out until some protection is filed on the action design . I have a couple more photos here , will try for more info later . ![]() ![]() |
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Hi Guys, I am the designer and manufacturer of the Soroka model 07 falling block, which I have been working on for the last 2 and a half years. Firstly thanks for all the positive comments, they are greatly appreciated after what has been a fairly long haul. I have not wanted to enter the cyber world just yet as I am extremely busy with web-site design, production, patent and numerous other final issues. But as Sarg is being bombarded with PM questions I have to interject..... Firstly it is 100% manufactured in New Zealand. Secondly, my action whilst looking like a later model Gibbs Farquharson is completely different inside. It uses a striker (firing pin) that is in-line with the bore that is powered by a chrome silicone coil spring. This gives extremely fast lock time and reliable ignition. The design also allows for dry firing which many single shot designs abhorr. Every single component in this action is either CNC'd or wire cut. All the major components- receiver, trigger plate, underlever, quarter rib are CNC'd from Boehler P 20 vaccuum re-melted billet bar stock, a couple of minor items, safety button and bar from 4140, the internal links and other components EDM wire cut from from 17-4 ph stainless ground plate. My machinists are are arguably the best 3d machinists in this part of the world. I can assure you it takes some doing to machine the compound curves found in this design. Ask anyone who knows. Due to patent application issues I cannot disclose too much at the moment but I can tell you that the trigger breaks like a shard of glass and is weight adjustable. All the internal workings are mounted on the trigger plate like the original detachable trigger plate Gibbs which means that one can dis-assemble this in a minute or so by undoing 2 screws. With a screwdriver and a 4mm punch one can strip this action easily in camp or even the field but dont loose the extractor spring (the only thing that can really be lost in stripping). The cocking lever only rotates 32 degrees, as opposed to say a Ruger which is 55 degrees.It therefore requires slightly more effort to cock than the Ruger, but not offensively so, just a bit firmer. When operated it feels like an extremely high quality safe being closed.The extractor is set up for rimless cases. I have taken no short cuts whatsoever in design, material selection, or manufacturing process. It has been made without compromise. I wanted to make the best single shot ever and this is the end result. The action weighs 2.55 lbs. The rifle in the photos weighs 7.5lbs bare which in my opinion is the right weight for a 30 cal magnum, (which it is.) Within 2 weeks I will have 6 completed actions and will be manufacturing the first serious production run of 25 shortly thereafter. I will only be offering complete rifles. The web site will be up and running within a week or so. The address will be www.sorokarifle.com. Please give me another 2 weeks to dot the last of my i's and cross t's. In any event, I cannot legally sell any of these for the next 2 weeks or so because of N.Z laws regarding dealer licensing. Unfortunately for many, these rifles are going to be more expensive than say a Dakota 10 or a Miller. But will be significantly less that what a "top english named maker" would be asking for the same thing. Once again I am glad many have enjoyed the end result. Cheers for now. |
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Thanks Sirocco. I have always been thinking of a nice .577 3" Nitro or a 577/500Magnum(same rim)...will they fit?? Your job looks top notch seen from here ![]() |
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You truly are a craftsman Sirocco!!! Brilliant and I hope that your venture flourishes, Regards, MOG |
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Rigbymauser, I think that the rim is going to pose a problem at 19mm od. A 505 Gibbs should work just fine and I believe with modern projectiles that will stop anything that needs to be stopped. It also seems appropriate that the .505 be a Gibbs cartridge, given the history....... Thanks MOG for the thumbs up and best wishes. Cheers. |
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Scirocco, That is a georgous piece of workmanship, and you deserve all the sucess that such obvious quality should bring. Cheers Sarg for the initial posts. Have just put the updated information on the Campfire and I am sure you will be recieving enquiries for the many who will apreciate ( and can afford) such a rifle. Wish I could. Von Gruff. |
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Well done, Sirrocco! I hope you give a discount to NZ residents, 'cause I'm thinking of retiring there before too long. Good luck in your endeavour. - Paul |
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That is about the most unreal thing that goes bang that I have seen. Incredible. What a pair they would make in 300 H&H and 375 H&H. |
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Hi guys I have a up date on the web site , it is up now & mostly running at http://sorokarifle.com/index.html I also have a question from Sirrocco "What rimless cartridge would you choose from the following list to build a Soroka 07 , given the traditional Gibbs Farquharson styling ? 270Win , 280Rem , 280Ack , 7mmRem Mag , 7mm Dakota , 7mm STW , 30/06 , 300H&H , 300Win Mag ,300 Dakota , 300 Weatherby , 300 Ultra , 375 H&H , 404 Jeffery , 416 Rem I know there is some modern choices here , but I,am trying to approach this with a open mind as to what people may choose given the lack of restriction , ie soft steel , rimmed extractor etc . Let me know what you think , Thank you ! " Cheers Guys , Sarg |
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.375 H&H, belted or flanged, best, Mike |
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I suppose if you are throwing in the word traditional and of the cartridges you have listed I would pare it down to 300H&H,375H&H,404 Jeffery as these are the more traditional of the bunch. Michael J |
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Quote: Ditto 270Win...possibly someone will want one 280Rem , 280Ack...No one 7mmRem Mag...possibly, about like 270 Winchester 7mm Dakota....absolutley no one 7mm STW....No one 30/06...always a possible, like 270 300H&H...100% guaranteed. 300Win Mag...very unlikely 300 Dakota....no one 300 Weatherby...very unlikely 300 Ultra....no one 375 H&H....100% guaranteed 404 Jeffery....95% guananteed 416 Rem....very unlikely |
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Well I guess that confirmed my suspicions. I forgot to add the old 7x57 to the list, which of course was always going to be there. So it would seem we will only have to keep a handful of sharp chambering reamers on hand, 7x57, 270, 7mm Rem Mag, 30/06, 300 H&H, 375H&H and 404 Jeffery. That will make things easy.... Are there any other appropriate, relatively common, rimless cartridges that should be on the list? Thanks Soroka Rifle Co. |
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of those you list, I would go .30-06 and .375 I might be tempted to add 7WSM/7SAUM rather than 270/280Ack/7mm Mag for the sheep and elk hunters, and the .340 Weatherby for Europeans going to Africa... What rimmed cartridges do you propose? Definitely 9,3x74 and .450/.400 I assume? |
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458 Lott? Seems like it would be the other bookend to the 375H&H. |
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250 Savage. |
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Quote: You might get an idea from seeing (If you can find out) what sort of calibres are being done in the Martini/Hagn. Actually, come to think of it I think some of those have been done in things like 240 Wby but your gun has the real English feel. I am just hoping it will be to expensive otherwise I am in deep shit ![]() Your gun to me is real 300 H&H and 375 H&H. An expensive gun like yours that has a real character about I reckon 95% of you chamberings will be in only 3 or 4 calibres. To take the opposite end in guns is Weatherby. If you have the cheque book Dean in the custom shop will empty it for you ![]() I would also probably list on the website calibres like 244 H&H, 275 H&H. Since you won't be delivering the rifle 5 minutes after the order ![]() I believe your listing of calibres (along with other things I can't think of because I don't know enough about this area)are an idicator of what you are about. As a side note I think your website looks great and conveys the message very well. I don't have it open now but when I looked at it my first thought was that the calibre listing should be changed. The 270, 7mm Rem and 30/06 are good. I think I remember reading in your website about the 300 Winchester being all things etc but I would probably have some highlighting of 300 H&H. To my mind what you have is the most impressive thing I have seen that has come along. |
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I had a sneaking suspicion that I was not alone in wanting to own a Gibbs styled Farkie when I started this project 2.5 years ago. I just didn't realise that the dream was so big for so many. But then again there isnt really anything else that "goes bang" (as one of the guys put it), that really compares with a Gibbs as far as styling goes. Anyway I am glad there are some that are excited about whats happening over here. Looks like we might be buying a few more reamers after all. We will build a rifle in any calibre that someone wants that will work reliably on the action as it is. Someone has already asked for 450/400, so it seems that the writing is on the wall for me to have to convert the extractor / ejector to a rimmed version. Fortunately I dont think this wont take too much doing. And perhaps then do a heavy version for .577 Nitro etc if there is enough interest. By the way the extractor is an extractor only if the lever is manipulated slowly and an ejector if manipulated rapidly. Unfortunately these rifles are going to be pretty expensive compared to some, but very inexpensive compared to the top English makers would undoubtedly charge for the same product. I am about to get the pricing page on the web site updated in the next day or so. The price for a rifle with an excellent, (not special selection) piece of wood with all the normal extras one would expect, shadowline cheekpiece, ebony tip, quarter rib, Talley rings, grip cap, barrel band and light coverage engraving is going to cost U.S.$14,500. Add more engraving, better wood, skeleton butt plate and grip cap and the price goes up from there. Without going into all the details, there is alot more work and time in making an action with all the detailing and compound curves that this rifle has compared to those that are essentially flat sided. In addition to the obvious exterior detailing there are things one cannot see from the pictures on the web site. For example, the front face of the trigger guard is convex in profile and the inside of the under lever that meets this face is concave, so light cannot pass between the two surfaces. The underside of the quarter rib is machined away to lighten it by approx 40%. The barrel has 2 lugs machined as part of the blank, one for the forend escutcheon and the other a lug that the quarter rib mounts on, which acts as a recoil lug and where the screw is positioned. This means that if you are shooting a lightish 375 H&H with a heavy scope mounted on it that there is no chance the screws will shear off. Nor can the forend escutcheon come off, as has previously happened with another single shot I used to own. As of tomorrow we will have 6 receivers and associated components ready for polishing and assembly. I will endeavour to post pics shortly. Cheers Soroka Rifle Co. |
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With the $14500US, for Australians buying the rifle would that be a simple dollar conversion plus shipping costs etc. or would the rifle be going through the wholesale/retail outlet system where the $14,500 becomes $29,000AUS. Have you established any general guidelines with respect to deposits, followed by payments along the way etc and approximate delivery times? Would that be what you would class as your base rifle? If I may make a small suggestion it would be to include with the rifle some basic spares such as screws etc. I think it is important to set things up correctly. As you know most of us who have been hanging around guns for a long time and where the interest (and an interest that will manifest as a purchase)is something more than a Ruger or Howa in 308....have seen some real nice Magnum Mausers or M70 copies, only for then to disappear along with deposits. But my gut feeling on this deal is it is good, very good. Who stocks 300 H&H dies? ![]() I mentioned the 300 H&H for a reason. I think about everyone would agree that shooters with more expensive rifles in particular, love pairs. A thought I had was (and allowing for the fact that I think you only want certain classes of rifle to go out the door) is if a shooter was to buy a pair such as a 300 H&H and 375 H&H or a pair of 375s etc. then one of the rifles could be made minus engraving etc. I have not read the website in detail so perhaps this is covered, gun cases. |
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Hi Mike, I will be selling direct to the public with no middlemen, so it is a straight conversion. I will not take a deposit on a rifle until there is a finished assembled action with a serial number that I can allocate and if need be email a photograph (of the action) to the client. Deposit will be 30% upon order, and additional 30% when stocking starts and 40% upon completion. The base rifle is as described in the previous post. I intend to supply a spare set of screws, springs and plungers with each purchase. As well as an instruction sheet on assembly and dis- assembly. I happen to have a brand new unopened set of Hornady 300 H&H dies and by the looks of things I will be buying them in bulk. As I mentioned in the previous post I have 6 receivers being finished as of today / tomorrow. We will be able to deliver a completed rifle within 2- 3 months. The barrels will be the hold up, if any. I do have a couple of sample barrels enroute in 300 and 375 now. As you can well appreciate there has been considerable financial and time investment made in this project to get things where they are today and I can assure you that there will be no disappearance of deposits or such forth. The loss from such an action would be huge in relation to the potential win of a few thousand dollars. Be assured the first rifles will be built to impress. I was going to make a matched pair of rifles in 300 H&H and 375 H&H using blanks SR 1012 and SR1016 with two of the receivers as a matter of course. There is an oak and leather case making guru that lives in New Zealand. I am awaiting a price from him. If you require further info please use the link on my website to contact me directly. Regards Soroka Rifle Co |
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Sounds good. You are a good salesman and nothing happens without the salesman. Will email you directly. I have a great feeling about this rifle. It is quite amazing your gun has appeared as I am about to make the move to help Ed Weatherbys sailng ![]() 300 H&H 30-378 375 H&H 378 My gut feeling is that you have the integrity of Wby and that is a lot. As a bit of a side note to what I said about Wby and for other members who may read what I said, that is Weatherby. They are the prized agency in Australia because of how they do business. They have always been that way. It goes right back to Roy. Around 1972 when I was 24 I phoned Wby and spoke to Roy....that was about getting two 460s here. The agents at the time, Michales Bayley, suggested I phone Wby. Upfront the first thing Roy said was...it must go through the agent....There was no problem there as the agent had suggested I organise it, but Roy fully supported the agent. As a by the way, the write up in the Barnes No 4 Loading Manual on the 460 is by an Australian gun writer John Woods, who bought one of the 460s from me. Of the two that came, one had the shit shot out of it and the other remained unfired until about 1991. About 1993 I sold it to John Woods. By then it had shot the odd roo and pig. |
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Quote:Quote: I went with the Lott since it is pretty well established. The new H&H rounds? Time will tell. |
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Later on would you conside making a switch barrel set up? Quick takedown... Different tubes and calibers useing the same wood... Possibly that'd sell a few more? |
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Probably, as the action has no forward protrusions below the barrel shank it is quite simple to achieve. Just have to add a plate and latch to the forend. But I am not sure that take down rifles are the answer to any particular problem, and they do have their idiosyncracies and shorfalls. |