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Daryl S Yep, more experimenting. At least I have got some where to start now. I will look up "longshot" but there is no ADI load listed for 1 3/8 ounce loads. It all stops at 1 1/4 ounce and the slower powders AP100 does not get a mention in the shotgun section. I got it out of Wrights Book on "Shooting the English double Barrel Rifle". I Will keep you posted. Al in Mi If you look at an earlier post on this thread by Marrakai you will see a picture of the Mould and the Paradox projectile used. My mould is arriving next week. Wayne |