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"Last night I fired three shots made up in Brass 12 bore cases, 150 grains of fff black powder, card wad, two felt wads and a 570 grain ball. " 450, I just chronoed some 700gn balls over 145 FFFg last weekend in my 10 and was getting an even 1300fps. I'd imagine your loads are in the 1500-1550 range, which is smokin!! ![]() Keep us posted on your progress. Bob |