I'm still trying to get the 10 bore to shoot balls without much luck still hitting in a 9x9 inch box most of the time. the best load that I have used is a .690 ball in a shot cup that I cut down so that it is just to the midline of the ball the ball fits sung in the cup and the cup is for the 10 gauge so the ball is centered in the bore. most of the time if I shoot 6 rounds I will get 3 that are in a 3 to 4 inch box the other 3 will open it up to 8 to 9 inch box. this is all with a diper that came with the L.E.E hand tools I think that I will have to start using my powder scale. I think part of what is happing is the diff. you get with diping powder it may be why I get the flyers for about half of the load that I use. I tryed cutting the shot cups down for the .760 balls that I have but you have to make them shorter and its hard to get them all the same. I think that I will work some more with them maby using a patch and a folded crimp. I have been useing a roll crimp of late as its easer to make and faster like I said I have to use a c clamp to do the fold crime to get them to stay in and look good but if I use a patch I think that I would have to use a fold crimp. Well have a good day all let you know how things work out.

Tom N