I was thinking the sights could tell us some thing , just don't know how to figure it out .

I'm away from the Tolley for a while more yet , but when I get back to the loading I will try some of the ideas here again & report back , thank you all for the help & ideas !

Tinker your just great , thank you for that , I found on checking my files those bores are the same rifle a 10Bore Pinfire of a member here , who shot a Elephant & other big game with his 8 Bore .

Thank you all again , have a Merry Christmas & New Years !