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TH44, The issues of DGJ on the 8's are Volume 12, issue 2, Summer 2001 (shotguns) and Vol 12, issue 3, Autumn 2001 (rifles). These back issues are available here: http://www.doublegunshop.com/doublegunjournal_backissues.htm I also forgot to mention that you will need a sizing die set to remove the "Belt" from the Industrial Hulls made by Winchester and Remington. The 8's are only made for industrial applications and are loaded to pressures that will disintigrate guns like your Holland. The ammunition makers add a raised belt near the head of the hull to hinder chambering in sporting arms. Removal is an easy process with the tooling made by John Millar in BC, Canada 250 442-5616. CC |