Thanks Daryl,
I had run into Roger Lake the other day in H&H London , he said he used the first stage of crimp (on a loader) and then used a wire to get crimp in paper case . Not sure this will work with balls. I thought about just a normal folded crimp , sounds like what you are doing with BP load . I may play with wads to get the correct height for a folded crimp. Do you use paper or plastic cases ? I just bought some loaded Federal paper cases , thought I would use them for clay practice and then try loading them with "balls". I will order some Lee's Liquid Alox and see if that helps.

Roger thought my gun was an early gun that has a larger bore and that was reason the factory stuff would not shoot. Thought I might be able to "roll my own" with larger slug and get it to shoot. It is showing promise with the balls. It shoots at 50 yards with the 50 yard sight and pretty good groups , but several flyers lead me to wonder if I am holding ball tight enough to powder / wad and getting erratic ignition ?? As well as the mentioned lead problem .

Thanks,
Robert