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The roll crimpers sold by Ballistic Products are basically the same as what Lyman used to sell (maybe still does). Here's the demo from the Ballistic Prodcuts website: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/bpi/articleindex/articles/rollcrimp/rollcrimp.mpg It does a good job. Here's a photo of some 10ga. 2 7/8" shotshells I loaded several years ago using a BP roll crimper. These are plastic shells that I cut to length. I used my drill press rather than a hand drill. For 12ga. I have an old hand roll crimper that does just fine. ![]() Roll crimping is not difficult at all. Curl |