http://www.gunsinternational.com/ARMY-NA...un_id=100115008

4" papercase for 12 drams...It could be a .835" calibered barrels. Normally 12 drams could be stuffed into a 3.5" brass case if it were .875cal.

Definatly the best 8bore fully rifled I have seen since champlins had a H&H fullyrifled 8bore for sale