RM,
That is an easy neat solution for a crimp. I had a die made for brass cases that has two taper crimps 5 or 10 degrees or star crimp.

Raff,
West End Gun Club is off the 15 freeway at Sierra just inside the mouth of Lytle Creek Canyon. I am located about 15 miles from Temecula. What is the name of the venue you use in Rainbow?