In the 70"s I owned a Holland and Holland 12 Bore full rifle with 24 inch barrels that weighed 16.5 lbs. I bought it from Safari Outfitters who had just imported it from India. The double rifle was in it's original case and looked virtually new. It had the original bullet mold and various accessories. The charge engraved on the side of the double rifle said 10 Drams, case lengh 4 1/4". The charge card that was original in the case also said 10 drams 4 1/4" case. I wrote Holland and they said it was an experiment made for the Nawab of Bhopal and could find no other 12 bore 10 dram rifles. I only have one fairly poor picture of the rifle in it's case. Unfortunatly I could not afford to keep it and sold it in the late 70"s. WISH I HAD IT BACK!