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Lancaster- I am very much enjoying this. I have seen the pinfire cases with 'rifling' in the case for use with bullet in smoothbore shotgun. I have also seen photographs of the 'trap door' pinfire cases with the little percussion cap door for easy reloading. This is great stuff for this thread!! The Gevelot short-case/deep hollow base bullet with powder charge is a new one for me. Interesting. Please assist with relevant translation of these terms from the page with catshead bullet image above: caliber = (Bore or Groove) diameter? führung = my free translator says 'leadership' Is this chamber diameter? It's the same for metal or paper case... länge = length gewicht = weight stuckzahl = (number of) pieces (per package)? --Tinker |