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Daryl_S, I didn't know about the "in shape" thing either until I talked w/the biologist......he said it was dependent on the thickness of the fat layer... That bull has lasted here only due to a 50"spread, three browtine, or spike/fork regulation here in our game unit. We have some wolves, but they're not the issue right here that they are in other areas of AK.....they're hunted and trapped regularly in this area and mange has taken it's toll also. -16C here this morning......cooling off. Joe |