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Not sure if there are two or three bears in those pics. The first one was larger than the one on the bar, squared right at 7 and a skull in the mid 20's. We never did break 21 on a skull, out of 5 bears. The bear on the sand bar squared a bit over 6.5 and the skull was high 19's. This bear squared over 7 and wasn't far from 21 inches on the skull. He was a hog, but didn't quite have as big of a skull as I thought he would. Damn nice bear though. dave |