RIPP:

Great stuff, fascinating, and congrats!! Great info.

SEEING them here is going to be the hard part due to the thick timber and timbered draws in which they run. Pulling them into the open? I hope so, but don't know yet

But seeing them when they aren't 30 feet ahead of you on a road, when they jump off and are gone, is going to be tough. We are thinking we might be able to "reverse elk hunt" them; going out at night, howling and seeing if we get a response, then returning in the morning...but who knows where they would be by then? Howling in the morning might work, too.

Fish & Game told me the cow call works well, and that they have routinely called them in to 30 feet in research done in deep central Idaho. But again, the habitat is different, and we have way more people here than in a "wilderness" area.

The kicker is, no electric calls are allowed, and they are the best I think. They all-time best call I've heard of is a taped electric call of hounds baying; they cannot resist that noise and come in to kill them, fast and hard.

I'll be interested what your cow call is. Yes, we gotta get this down somehow. I've never been more motivated to learn to hunt something.

Thnanks for the information. Very interesting stuff.