Without wanting to start a war I find it interesting that despite the fact that the 45-70 lever actions go to Africa on a regular basis and using good ammo seem to work fine on anything they are pointed at they still are not considered by many to be adequate. This pic was from a buff kill using a 45-70 Brockman custom Marlin using Garrett Cartridge 540gr ammo. This gent is going after the big 6 with this set up. Another hunter is going after the big 6 this year and the safari is going to be filmed for television. I regularly hunt with lever guns of all descriptions and have a rifle at Brockmans as I type that I plan on taking to Africa in 2010. The may be a mainstay in America with a bunch of them still used around here but they can certainly take on the world. reflex264