Thanks Steve. Always nice to have a brain to pick. I'm starting to learn little by little. I think I know what I would do if I were having a rifle made from scratch. I was trying to find what would be acceptable if I were to find an existing rifle. It's clear to me (now) that there are several elements one can adjust to get satisfactory target and/or hunting performance. And, as you say, define what you want to begin with. Conicals Thanks again. Pat