I ended up with 14". I wanted to go shorter but figured 14" was a good starting point. This isnt a bird gun or a hunting gun-I have plenty of those. I wanted is as a get off my lawn gun, OR a who the F are you at 2am gun AND just because its damn fun.

OK Ill admit I got the idea from ELDORADO, the John Wayne movie. The gunsmith said a guy carried it who didnt see well and he would just point it at the noise and that was all great until the music was too loud, so he just shot the piano player.....