Well I took another shot at it yesterday. I changed from a lube cookie to a lubed felt wad. Started with a low powder charge and worked my way up to 80gr 3f and the groups started to come together. Ran out of range time and powder before I could Finnish. I have powder coming in but it is Swiss instead of Goex so I will be starting again. At least I am getting lots of practice. This is by far the most finicky muzzle loader I have seen but I will get it if my shoulder dose not give out first.