Around here that will get you arrested. After mowing this morning and my nap I worked on my template. Haven't tried it out yet but hopefully it will work. Read on the net where some people are gluing the patches on. Anybody tried that. May be water glue. Any way just a thought. I did cut one patch by hand and did wrap my first hexagonal bullet. Turned out pretty good if I do say so my self. What is everyone using for lube on these and are you lubing before hand or lubeing them as you load.