I have always wanted to build a 8 bore muzzle loader ,like the Samuel Baker gun ,the October country 8 bore weighs 15 pound [including 2 pound mercury recoil reducer],Samuel Bakers was 22 pound ,October Countries 8 bore, is $8500.00 US, and build time of 1 1/2 years .32 inch barrel ,I think Bakers was 36 inch barrel .