Those guns are ridiculous and a mockery to muzzleloading seasons IMO - outsider perspective.

Plus is really annoying trying to find good hunting videos on YouTube with "traditional" muzzleloaders. Most are those darned inline things.

Sabots, pistol bullets, bolt or break actions, stainless barrels and scopes! Nothing like "getting back to basics". I've even heard people say in videos with these very guns that it's "good to do it the traditional way"!! What's the point of it all?!

I just bought my first muzzleloader. A cheap used CVA "Hawken". It's gunna live on nothing but true black and round ball

Yes I know they're not proper hawkens, I saw Daryls post and thought I better add this disclaimer