One more question is it ok to use more then one patch to get the seal that you need like I said I was using two to get the .690 balls to seal. one red and one blue I should have tryed two of the blue ones as they it would have been a tighter seal and I think that I would have been able to get it to go down with out to much trouble. I think that I will have to get my patches miked to see what they really are then I will know for sure it I am going the right way.

TomN