beleg---Thanks for the input. I hope my friend is reading this thread. I believe 100 grains of 3F should be his minimal starting point for shooting big long tusked pigs. I am thinking even 50 cal with a hardened round ball may even be a bit light for killing big angry wild pigs... he did say he would be shooting them from a porch with a Coke by his side so it is NOT like he will be out in the bush trying to hunt them while they are in the thick. Still I wonder about a 50 cal round ball and 350 pound pig with big tusks and only a porch railing as a barrier.