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Thanks Daryl I will do the muzzle I had the balls miked and they seam to be reather large .720 and .725 and not very round they arn't hard as they were deforming when I was loading them so that could be part of the problum. Grops from each barrel were not bad mabe 1 to 11/2 inch centers just left was low and to the right. I think I will use the mold that I have .715 and see if that one will make batter balls than I have been buying. Thanks for all your help. TomN |